Sims 4 introducing "disabled sims"?

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17286918" wrote:
I know it's been mentioned in the past that the team is open to disabilities. I wouldn't mind seeing physical disabilities at all, but I personally draw the line at mental disabilities. I really would hate to see my sims suffer from anxiety like I do. I play to get away from that sort of thing, not to constantly be reminded of it.

"doogerie;c-17288719" wrote:
as a diabeld person i don't want disablatys in my game it plum every day is a struggel i play the sims to forget that aspect of my life why woud i wan't to be reminded of it i get enogth of that irl

I empathize with you and everyone that suffers from anxiety, depression, autism, and other mental/physical disabilities. A long time ago, I was very depressed, not suicidal, but just depressed, and thankfully with strong support from friends and family, I got over my depression. However, I never really thought about the Sims 4 from your perspective, a safe haven from real-life problems. For me, it's a fun game that I play from time to time where I can explore different storylines. But you know what? Y'all are right, there is no right reason or way to play the game. Everyone plays the game like they want to, some for the fun of it, others do it as a career and others to escape their demons.

"king_of_simcity7;c-17287550" wrote:
Disability in The Sims might be welcome but how could it be done respectfully?

That's a good question. If they are gonna represent something, put effort into it. They took more than 4 years just to add hijabs, and that's about it when it comes to Muslim representation. I think EA tries to keep their game very neutral: your sims don't really have a gender preference, you can make your male sims get pregnant and your female sims through CAS (transgender sims?), there is no religious aspect or cultural aspect outside of traditional clothing. Bullyism in the sims is also very minimal, I think sometimes your children will get a pop up saying "I'm getting bullied what should I do?" (Parenthood DLC)

This thread is very enlightening and eye-opening. This topic is delicate and raw, and I feel like it's never talked about, but I can understand why now. I love how broad, open-minded and respectful this community is: so many people with different stories, different backgrounds joined in one place to play a game we all love and enjoy, regardless of the countless bugs that occur in the game.

Anyway, if those are robotic arms are inventions, then is EA hinting at a possible futuristic pack? We'll just have to see what the future has in store for us.

I personally wouldn't mind a few. Missing limbs, wheelchairs, and a few more. Maybe a store that sells wheelchairs, canes for elders or hurt Sims, and medicine. Hate getting meds online. Would rather have a store to pick them up at as well as vitamins to keep Sims healthy. Maybe also a physical therapy place.

"Echova;c-17289149" wrote:
Personally I don’t like being reminded of my disability .

I feel you brother what annoys me is that some people my brother included love to talk about there disabilities and my dad loves ti talk about my disability and I try to forget it exists I would like to go one day where nobody talks about the mod that would be lovely what’s worth it’s like dad tells everyone he meets.

I've noticed that most of the people with a disability do not want this in the game. We play the game to escape. We already deal with it in real life and it's NOT FUN. People that aren't forced to deal with it daily are the ones pushing it. (Seems like in this thread). While they are trying to be inclusive and thoughtful, it's just that you're missing the mark and not actually listening to us. "We don't want that" "Oh but it's shiny, here take it" "What part of no didn't you understand?" Just because it makes YOU feel better to be seen to be inclusive? *sighs* We don't want to be included in this way. Making the game fun and accessible for all is what makes it inclusive, regardless of the content included or excluded. Maybe a toggle or something (as was previously mentioned) for some things in the future to get those people who really want to go through with this. Maybe there's some disabled person out there who does want this included. Maybe I've missed the mark, but the message I'm seeing here is a resounding no from the very people you're so nicely trying to include.

Sims is supposed to be fun and quirky. I'd like for them to stay that way and not be reminded while I play.

I would rather see Disabilities and Neurodiversity built into a possible Sims 5.

It’s not actually a robotic limb as you can see her arm underneath it...

I think disabilites, gender and all pc issues should be left out of the game.
They bring only problems and resentment as people will always have different views.
Sims used to just be a fun game but Sims 4 has become more like a way of controlling what people should think, say and do.
The sims used to be fun when it was more adult but now I am bored with it and am not playing it half as much as I used to..

Honestly its a huge can of worms that doesn't need opening. I personally am entirely neutral to the idea of disabled sims, and if we ever did get them I don't see myself rooting for or against the team for the inclusion.

Really, there is going to be a huge amount of players not happy with whatever content is out. In one corner you'll have players claiming "since disabled people are only 0.00000000000000001% of the population, this is obvious pandering and is somehow politics."
In another corner you'll have players saying "well why didnt my disability get included? I feel as though my existence is being erased! The Sims team obviously did a horrible job researching disabilities."
And in yet another corner, "I have disabilities in real life and I dont want to be reminded of them ingame! I dont want this kind of representation!"

They could present disabilities in the most respectful way possible, even donating a million dollars to some organization, and its still going to result in a massive poopstorm.

For once I'm a differently-able woman who actually *wants* the ability to have differently-abled sims in the Sims. I only play the game so I can live someplace else (and have a love life) that I can't have in real life because of how my parents are too over protective.

I can actually speak about what Grant had said in the past (2 years ago I believe) about the topic. 1)mental illness would be included but it wouldn't be traits. 2)stairs would turn into a ramp-escalator for sims with wheelchairs, 3)wheelchairs would be for all ages not restricted to a certain age group 4)SSL (Simish Sign Language) 5)They want disabled simmers to talk to them about our disabilities 6) they had some problem I don't know what it was and they had to consult with some simmers who use wheelchairs and they were able to fix it. 7)it would be a patch not a pack of any kind 8)He kind of was silent about how would a sim become disabled.






But here's an idea for disabilities in the Sims 5 pre-Pets EP for a blind (or other disabled sim) being able to call a centre of sorts and hire a kind of "human guide" and then when we gets pets a disabled sim could get a service dog/cat/mini pony. Non-differently able sims would be able to be um what it called "puppy families"?


PS.. please don't ask us to download a mod without wheels or without it being already programmed into the game wheelchairs CC don't work !! Not to mention how annoying it is for non-CC in-game glasses to turn into contacts when your simself go to work!!

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17286918" wrote:
I know it's been mentioned in the past that the team is open to disabilities. I wouldn't mind seeing physical disabilties at all, but I personally draw the line at mental disabilities. I really would hate to see my sims suffer from anxiety like I do. I play to get away from that sort of thing, not to constantly be reminded of it.

100% agree. I also fail to see how it could feasibly be done. Take Autism for example. There are SOO many different types of autism, how do you realistically represent it? No one person with autism acts the same as another. Same with ADHD, Depression, anxiety etc.

I get claustrophobic when sitting on the inside of restaurant booths, but other areas like elevators, planes, etc do not effect me at all.

Plus,I just don't want mental illnesses in my game. It's not a fun concept for me. I also don't even see how they could do it when they had to change the insane trait because it was too offensive.