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- I think this thread is a good idea. Emotions regarding this game have been so polarizing so it's nice to just be able to vent. There are many aspects of this game that I adore and I've been quite up-front about them in other various posts and threads.
But.... the lack of in-depth game play is a real issue. Everything that gets added seems like sugar coating, delightful to look at and exciting to play through... but then I'm left with nothing. What I can't figure out is if it is simply because it is only a few packs in and more content will alleviate this or if it really is just a simple game.
Relationship culling, culling from family trees and culling in general during a long running game are real problems. I understand the guru's decisions and this function's purpose from a developers perspective (well as much as I can) but from a players perspective this feature absolutely su.cks. It really is an enjoyment killer. I haven't played for a couple of weeks now because after I had to reintroduce my sims 'friends' to him for the 3rd time I just gave up... it was to much of a struggle, the game play was boringly repetitive and I simply just couldn't be bothered. Not such a great selling point to a pretty game. I truly said to myself..."omg I can NOT be bothered" and quit out.
I play generational games with an odd sinking feeling in my gut when it is almost time for my founder and wife to die as I know that within a few generations they will be wiped from the family tree. This is so bad. I created my founder, fell in love with him enough to play a generational game and yet he won't even be a memory soon. It makes me not play this file... the story it sits on another forum, waiting for an update, while I just can't bring myself to play knowing that this culling is soon going to ruin everything.
I also miss toddlers. I do. I'm not really a family player as such but I miss them. I want them back in my game so bad. They won't solve any of the other issues but I still want them.
I really hate that I can't toggle certain features on or off. I really really hate that certain patches have changed elements of the game that I liked the most (mostly the whole alien saga with the chance of abduction pregnancies now so low they are impossible to rely on).
At times I have to sort of 'struggle' with my sim to get him to do what I want... canceling his actions twice etc and redirecting him. Other times there is nothing in the action queue to cancel so I just have to sit and watch him doing random stuff. For example despite clicking on the downstairs 'inspired room' computer he walks all the way upstairs (three floors) to use the 'focused rooms' PC. Or the weird 'stand in the park not doing any of my queued actions' because some random townie wants to hug him from all the way across the open space, not just from within the buildable area. Gah!
I often feel like an observer instead of a god. I mean I like watching my sims do stuff but not to this extent, I feel sort of disconnected from my sim, unattached and at times, like what I want doesn't matter as if I left my game running over night my sim would probably be fine and having a better time than when I 'control' him! lol It's a weird feeling and haven't ever experienced that with any other sim game.
Anyway, I'll stop here, this is turning into quite a wall of text. I have such mixed feeling regarding this game. love/hate, anger/enjoyment. I do know that I won't ever buy another 'new' sims game on launch... if there are anymore that is. - BlueBlack0079 years agoSeasoned Ace
"CauIiflower;14864387" wrote:
I like the Sims 4 but I am also really disappointed.The family tree is still broken... To me, the family aspect of the game is lacking (I know, only 2 expansions out, wait for more content...)
Yup that is what we all are waiting for I guess, more content, :) - BlueBlack0079 years agoSeasoned Ace
"NZsimm3r;14864701" wrote:
I think this thread is a good idea. Emotions regarding this game have been so polarizing so it's nice to just be able to vent. There are many aspects of this game that I adore and I've been quite up-front about them in other various posts and threads.
But.... the lack of in-depth game play is a real issue. Everything that gets added seems like sugar coating, delightful to look at and exciting to play through... but then I'm left with nothing. What I can't figure out is if it is simply because it is only a few packs in and more content will alleviate this or if it really is just a simple game.
Relationship culling, culling from family trees and culling in general during a long running game are real problems. I understand the guru's decisions and this function's purpose from a developers perspective (well as much as I can) but from a players perspective this feature absolutely su.cks. It really is an enjoyment killer. I haven't played for a couple of weeks now because after I had to reintroduce my sims 'friends' to him for the 3rd time I just gave up... it was to much of a struggle, the game play was boringly repetitive and I simply just couldn't be bothered. Not such a great selling point to a pretty game. I truly said to myself..."omg I can NOT be bothered" and quit out.
I play generational games with an odd sinking feeling in my gut when it is almost time for my founder and wife to die as I know that within a few generations they will be wiped from the family tree. This is so bad. I created my founder, fell in love with him enough to play a generational game and yet he won't even be a memory soon. It makes me not play this file... the story it sits on another forum, waiting for an update, while I just can't bring myself to play knowing that this culling is soon going to ruin everything.
I also miss toddlers. I do. I'm not really a family player as such but I miss them. I want them back in my game so bad. They won't solve any of the other issues but I still want them.
I really hate that I can't toggle certain features on or off. I really really hate that certain patches have changed elements of the game that I liked the most (mostly the whole alien saga with the chance of abduction pregnancies now so low they are impossible to rely on).
At times I have to sort of 'struggle' with my sim to get him to do what I want... canceling his actions twice etc and redirecting him. Other times there is nothing in the action queue to cancel so I just have to sit and watch him doing random stuff. For example despite clicking on the downstairs 'inspired room' computer he walks all the way upstairs (three floors) to use the 'focused rooms' PC. Or the weird 'stand in the park not doing any of my queued actions' because some random townie wants to hug him from all the way across the open space, not just from within the buildable area. Gah!
I often feel like an observer instead of a god. I mean I like watching my sims do stuff but not to this extent, I feel sort of disconnected from my sim, unattached and at times, like what I want doesn't matter as if I left my game running over night my sim would probably be fine and having a better time than when I 'control' him! lol It's a weird feeling and haven't ever experienced that with any other sim game.
Anyway, I'll stop here, this is turning into quite a wall of text. I have such mixed feeling regarding this game. love/hate, anger/enjoyment. I do know that I won't ever buy another 'new' sims game on launch... if there are anymore that is.
Thank you so much for sharing, I feel your pain and hope that it only gets better, I am still waiting from day 1 to get stuff that I use for My game, so I know how sad it is to have to wait on things, I am not sure what I am going to do as well, if another Sims game comes out, guess only time will tell, . - BlueBlack0079 years agoSeasoned Ace
"CauIiflower;14864387" wrote:
I like the Sims 4 but I am also really disappointed.The family tree is still broken... To me, the family aspect of the game is lacking (I know, only 2 expansions out, wait for more content...)
I am hoping for a Family tree as well, I miss a lot of things about the franchise, I go back to Sims 2 & 3 , when it gets to bad to miss, that is the only way I can cope with the Sims 4 right now, the fact that I have them to go back to, :) - pepperjax12309 years agoSeasoned AceI like the game but I am a little disappointed that the family tree can't resemble what it does in the tree in the game. Like I think its really stupid that the 4th generation isn't even recognized or that like a step parent that has raised their spouse child from a baby lets say can flirt with them when they become a YA. Or that when sims marry into the family they aren't family.
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Saying that a thread will turn into a flame war is pointless. Completely. If you see posts that break the forum rules, report them. If everything is fine, there’s no point saying something like that. Isn’t it better to contribute to the OPs topic?
TS4 is a huge disappointment for me. I won’t go into details about every single thing I dislike about this game, because I’d have to spend hours on writing an extremely long post, but this is a great thread to pop up in every now and then and complain about something that annoys us.
Overall, I hate the direction/vision of this game. Everything is shallow, sims are cheaters by default (I hate that really, it isn’t fun for me at all; it only can be if I decide that a certain sim should be a cheater, all of them being unfaithful is the last thing I want), and the mainly advertised features aren’t really that great. Emotions aren’t based on any in-depth system, build mode and CAS are limited, removing CASt was one of the worst decisions ever... It doesn’t seem to be an AAA PC game, it’s more like a cheap tablet game for kids. ‘Features’ that ‘work as designed’ are game-breaking, and it only makes the impression that the devs didn’t play The Sims at all. Lots of things seem half baked; had the game been improving over time? Sure, but I doubt it can become a sims game I really like. If I dislike its main direction/vision, EPs can’t change that.- pepperjax12309 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Voeille;14865278" wrote:
When you say sims are cheaters how so?-content removed-
Saying that a thread will turn into a flame war is pointless. Completely. If you see posts that break the forum rules, report them. If everything is fine, there’s no point saying something like that. Isn’t it better to contribute to the OPs topic?
TS4 is a huge disappointment for me. I won’t go into details about every single thing I dislike about this game, because I’d have to spend hours on writing an extremely long post, but this is a great thread to pop up in every now and then and complain about something that annoys us.
Overall, I hate the direction/vision of this game. Everything is shallow, sims are cheaters by default (I hate that really, it isn’t fun for me at all; it only can be if I decide that a certain sim should be a cheater, all of them being unfaithful is the last thing I want), and the mainly advertised features aren’t really that great. Emotions aren’t based on any in-depth system, build mode and CAS are limited, removing CASt was one of the worst decisions ever... It doesn’t seem to be an AAA PC game, it’s more like a cheap tablet game for kids. ‘Features’ that ‘work as designed’ are game-breaking, and it only makes the impression that the devs didn’t play The Sims at all. Lots of things seem half baked; had the game been improving over time? Sure, but I doubt it can become a sims game I really like. If I dislike its main direction/vision, EPs can’t change that. "pepperjax1230;14865382" wrote:
When you say sims are cheaters how so?
I’m referring to randomly generated random romantic relations.- pepperjax12309 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Voeille;14865394" wrote:
Oh I don't think any of the townies in my games have ever cheated."pepperjax1230;14865382" wrote:
When you say sims are cheaters how so?
I’m referring to randomly generated random romantic relations. - cynconzola89 years agoRising Ace
"BlueBlack007;888520" wrote:
Here is a place for those of us who are not so happy with the Sims 4 right now, and those who are Neutral, those that are Happy can also post here, as long as they do not try to bash the one's who are not happy with the Sims 4, I figured I would make this Post since the other's only seemed to want to make a Happy Post, We are not here to Bash the Guru's or the company, just thought's about what other's are having trouble with in the game and do not like, thank you.
Thank you BlueBlack, some of us DO need to talk about how dreadful they find the game. It doesn't mean those who like it are being bashed, it just means that Maxis has a very long way to go to please more of us. Especially me! :s