Sims 4 Not So Happy Play Thread & Neutral , No Bashing just your thought's

Sims 4 is one of the emptiest sim games so far. The game feels half finished, the packs all feel half done. There are wonderful graphics and an awesome CAS but so far the game is pretty flat. I do love the building system which keeps me entertained more than anything else but the lack of innovation and new ideas within build mode goes hand in hand with the lack of innovation and new ideas amongst the rest of the game. In short, there's hardly anything 'new' in this game aside from clubs. Previous games have the same things and did it better. I can't help but shake my head a bit at when anyone says we should be grateful for any packs. Why, when they don't correlate to each other and hardly add anything to gameplay? I've never had an expansion pack feel so empty! Plus as another simmer said, the packs are all stand alone and don't carry on into other ones.

For a sequel, this game feels like the franchise has gone backwards. More so do to with the lack of options almost everywhere! Whilst I admit the clothing, hair and general CAS choices are really good in this one, outside of CAS the options are very few. Few places to build lots, few build mode options, few buy mode options, few careers, few aspirations -oh gosh don't get me started on the aspirations, I literally put anything and then proceed to ignore it - and few traits that have little to no impact on your sim. I spend a lot of time in CAS and I create this whole sim and personality, the moment I zoom out and see them start moving I instantly know they are exactly the same as every other sim I have made. Any difference is because of my own imagination and stories I hold on to. The emotions and watered-down traits stop sims from having any individuality. You leave your sims alone for a bit (which by the way they will be PERFECTLY FINE without you) and they go on to do repeated actions that every sim does whether it's to do with their personality or not. Remember in TS3 and you could train your sim to do more of a certain behaviour and less of another one? That seems gone now.

The (awful) emotion system that they claimed would make our sims so "realistic" actually turned them into predictable caricatures. I feel like I could get more emotion and insight into thoughts/feelings with the moodlets in TS3 than I can in TS4. Now the moodlets do nothing but add on emotional buffs I tend to cheat to remove. Can they please not always feel happy?! I love when they are just 'fine'. And such a lack of negative emotions! I actually really enjoyed the "very sad" emotion state my sim was in after her husband died, I commend them on the detail of that emotion, though only half the family got that and the rest were non responsive to their father's death even when seeing it right there. Also, it was easy to get them out of the mood and quickly into inspired or something (I really loathe 'inspired' the most). I'd be happier if they did away with emotions.

I'll leave my post here for today. I do enjoy the game in some aspects, I'm just disappointed because they could be doing so much more!

START VENT-Today I played as my self created sim (Who is currently a teen/ just aged up teen) and my father who I made a version of. Now as soon as my sim became a teen I wanted her to get some cooking skills under her belt. And what happened pissed me off to the point where I took off Autonomy for the selected sim. Every time I had her read a cookbook, she would do it for a few moments then cancel that action and go to the computer. She is a Bookworm and a Foodie. She NEVER grabs a book to read unless I make her. Its always the TV or COMPUTER in her fathers office. So I locked the office off to her and now all she does is watch TV!! This is really pissing me off and it makes me want to sell the tv. For the Love of all good things she is not acting like shes suppose to. Personally, I loved learning how to cook as a teen! I would pick up a book over watching tv anytime! What are the points of having these traits if they don't follow through?! You would think a foodie would not only like to eat great food but learn how to cook it as well (I consider myself a foodie) and Well a bookworm speaks for itself and there nothing bookwormy about that sim. -VENT OVER-


Now how I feel about The Sims 4 in a nutshell:

I love the sims 4, however I feel like its a love/hate relationship. Very bittersweet. There are moments when I'm enjoying my gameplay but then I either get bored and wish there was more for my sims to do (Mainly Children and Teens) and wish for a better storyline over and over. I constantly find myself going back to the sims 3 just to have a storyline. Just to be able to give a description of personality in CAS. Just to have MORE. But then I go back to the sims 4 because of CAS lol. I'm trying to keep my faith and hope that there will be more content later that reflects what we all want for our game. what we all have been begging for. For one it will show that the Gurus are listening to its fan base as well as it would make more people want to buy the game jump on THe sims 4 bandwagon. Either way OP I'm glad you posed this. It was nice to vent. :*

"MzPigglyPooh;14891655" wrote:
START VENT-Today I played as my self created sim (Who is currently a teen/ just aged up teen) and my father who I made a version of. Now as soon as my sim became a teen I wanted her to get some cooking skills under her belt. And what happened pissed me off to the point where I took off Autonomy for the selected sim. Every time I had her read a cookbook, she would do it for a few moments then cancel that action and go to the computer. She is a Bookworm and a Foodie. She NEVER grabs a book to read unless I make her. Its always the TV or COMPUTER in her fathers office. So I locked the office off to her and now all she does is watch TV!! This is really pissing me off and it makes me want to sell the tv. For the Love of all good things she is not acting like shes suppose to. Personally, I loved learning how to cook as a teen! I would pick up a book over watching tv anytime! What are the points of having these traits if they don't follow through?! You would think a foodie would not only like to eat great food but learn how to cook it as well (I consider myself a foodie) and Well a bookworm speaks for itself and there nothing bookwormy about that sim. -VENT OVER-


Now how I feel about The Sims 4 in a nutshell:

I love the sims 4, however I feel like its a love/hate relationship. Very bittersweet. There are moments when I'm enjoying my gameplay but then I either get bored and wish there was more for my sims to do (Mainly Children and Teens) and wish for a better storyline over and over. I constantly find myself going back to the sims 3 just to have a storyline. Just to be able to give a description of personality in CAS. Just to have MORE. But then I go back to the sims 4 because of CAS lol. I'm trying to keep my faith and hope that there will be more content later that reflects what we all want for our game. what we all have been begging for. For one it will show that the Gurus are listening to its fan base as well as it would make more people want to buy the game jump on THe sims 4 bandwagon. Either way OP I'm glad you posed this. It was nice to vent. :*

Sorry that the game is being a pest, I am wondering why they even bothered to add traits, since the Sim's do not act like they are suppose to, they really need to Fix a lot of things as far as how they act in the game, yup., thanks for posting.

"jheyjuneice;14891548" wrote:
Sims 4 is one of the emptiest sim games so far. The game feels half finished, the packs all feel half done. There are wonderful graphics and an awesome CAS but so far the game is pretty flat. I do love the building system which keeps me entertained more than anything else but the lack of innovation and new ideas within build mode goes hand in hand with the lack of innovation and new ideas amongst the rest of the game. In short, there's hardly anything 'new' in this game aside from clubs. Previous games have the same things and did it better. I can't help but shake my head a bit at when anyone says we should be grateful for any packs. Why, when they don't correlate to each other and hardly add anything to gameplay? I've never had an expansion pack feel so empty! Plus as another simmer said, the packs are all stand alone and don't carry on into other ones.

For a sequel, this game feels like the franchise has gone backwards. More so do to with the lack of options almost everywhere! Whilst I admit the clothing, hair and general CAS choices are really good in this one, outside of CAS the options are very few. Few places to build lots, few build mode options, few buy mode options, few careers, few aspirations -oh gosh don't get me started on the aspirations, I literally put anything and then proceed to ignore it - and few traits that have little to no impact on your sim. I spend a lot of time in CAS and I create this whole sim and personality, the moment I zoom out and see them start moving I instantly know they are exactly the same as every other sim I have made. Any difference is because of my own imagination and stories I hold on to. The emotions and watered-down traits stop sims from having any individuality. You leave your sims alone for a bit (which by the way they will be PERFECTLY FINE without you) and they go on to do repeated actions that every sim does whether it's to do with their personality or not. Remember in TS3 and you could train your sim to do more of a certain behaviour and less of another one? That seems gone now.

The (awful) emotion system that they claimed would make our sims so "realistic" actually turned them into predictable caricatures. I feel like I could get more emotion and insight into thoughts/feelings with the moodlets in TS3 than I can in TS4. Now the moodlets do nothing but add on emotional buffs I tend to cheat to remove. Can they please not always feel happy?! I love when they are just 'fine'. And such a lack of negative emotions! I actually really enjoyed the "very sad" emotion state my sim was in after her husband died, I commend them on the detail of that emotion, though only half the family got that and the rest were non responsive to their father's death even when seeing it right there. Also, it was easy to get them out of the mood and quickly into inspired or something (I really loathe 'inspired' the most). I'd be happier if they did away with emotions.

I'll leave my post here for today. I do enjoy the game in some aspects, I'm just disappointed because they could be doing so much more!

Yup I agree, to Me My sims are just like the walking Dead, no feeling's what so ever, makes Me wonder if we just started out with Zombie's , instead of People, thank you for your post, :)

Okay I was due for a rant and here it is, > I am not happy that We have to use 2 lot's for 1 sim ! , I mean really, there is not enough room in the world's as is , and in order to own a business and live in a home the Sim's have to use 2 lot's ? that is ridiculous!!, I wanted My Sim's to own a business and live on the lot as well, But if they do that then it can not be a business where costumer's show up, I am so not happy bout that, They need to make it so our Sim's can live on the property as well as run the business, that way they are NOT, taking up 2 lot's, GRRR.

"BlueBlack007;14899465" wrote:
Okay I was due for a rant and here it is, > I am not happy that We have to use 2 lot's for 1 sim ! , I mean really, there is not enough room in the world's as is , and in order to own a business and live in a home the Sim's have to use 2 lot's ? that is ridiculous!!, I wanted My Sim's to own a business and live on the lot as well, But if they do that then it can not be a business where costumer's show up, I am so not happy bout that, They need to make it so our Sim's can live on the property as well as run the business, that way they are NOT, taking up 2 lot's, GRRR.

Reading this, I just had an idea. I usually do have my sims live on the lot where their store is, but that means there's a whole empty lot that's supposed to be their residence. But you can still do things with that lot. Turn it into a gym and bulldoze the other gyms except for one that you keep to fulfill that first requirement of the Bodybuilder aspiration. Fill it with the science equipment and make it the clubhouse for your science club. Turn it into the Wishing Well park. It won't really be a public place, but if you have Get Together, you could have your clubs meet there. If you don't have Get Together, invite everyone your sim knows to a goalless party when you go there.

Sorry to intrude on your rant -- I just had this idea. (Sigh -- too many ideas, not enough hours in the day.)

right now playing my current rotational game
i moved my painter from the other save to this main one so he doesn't know anybody there but since he was at the museum & he met there very briefly another sim & seemingly had a rather unpleasant encounter so the relationship bar with the other sim went a little into red
now from that little red, it must be 5 to 10 points only maybe he starts to wish to be mean to the other sim - completely senseless

he could wish for so many things in his life, his house is unfurnished, he doesn't know really anybody just the members of his painter club but the only thing interesting to him is to bug the other sim ?
his traits are creative, noncommital & outgoing
is this negative encounter for him now an invitation to a friendship ? why doesn't he wish for those sims he met in the painter club, those who share his passion for painting ?

"MVWdeZT;14901461" wrote:

"BlueBlack007;14899465" wrote:
Okay I was due for a rant and here it is, > I am not happy that We have to use 2 lot's for 1 sim ! , I mean really, there is not enough room in the world's as is , and in order to own a business and live in a home the Sim's have to use 2 lot's ? that is ridiculous!!, I wanted My Sim's to own a business and live on the lot as well, But if they do that then it can not be a business where costumer's show up, I am so not happy bout that, They need to make it so our Sim's can live on the property as well as run the business, that way they are NOT, taking up 2 lot's, GRRR.

Reading this, I just had an idea. I usually do have my sims live on the lot where their store is, but that means there's a whole empty lot that's supposed to be their residence. But you can still do things with that lot. Turn it into a gym and bulldoze the other gyms except for one that you keep to fulfill that first requirement of the Bodybuilder aspiration. Fill it with the science equipment and make it the clubhouse for your science club. Turn it into the Wishing Well park. It won't really be a public place, but if you have Get Together, you could have your clubs meet there. If you don't have Get Together, invite everyone your sim knows to a goalless party when you go there.

Sorry to intrude on your rant -- I just had this idea. (Sigh -- too many ideas, not enough hours in the day.)

Sounds nice, But the game won't let My Sims Live where the Business is, I do not know why that is, If I put My Sim's on the same lot, then it can not be a business, I have no clue why they made the game like that,. I just know it is a waste to have 1 sim use up 2 lot's, but thank for info.

@BlueBlack007 your sims can live on a retail lot, it's just that they need a residential lot for the bills etc. On a retail lot you can build an apartment or house style living area and meet all their needs there, it's just that it has to stay as a 'retail lot type' for the business to function. Making use of the door locks you can make it so no other sims except your own has access to the living areas.

"NZsimm3r;14901527" wrote:
@BlueBlack007 your sims can live on a retail lot, it's just that they need a residential lot for the bills etc. On a retail lot you can build an apartment or house style living area and meet all their needs there, it's just that it has to stay as a 'retail lot type' for the business to function. Making use of the door locks you can make it so no other sims except your own has access to the living areas.

ok so as long as it is on Retail, then I can free up that other Lot for another Sim family?
PS, but if it is on Retail, I won't be able to hire other sims and such to work there right?