4 years ago
Sims for Men
I noticed The Sims 4 became very girlie. I don't remember the previous versions being so girlie. I picked up my first Sims game because it was an amazing game to build houses. I don't know if it was C...
"Justin;c-17859209" wrote:"Antwerpo;c-17857330" wrote:"Justin;c-17857277" wrote:"greydonn;c-17857261" wrote:"Justin;c-17857248" wrote:"Antwerpo;c-17857073" wrote:"InuMiroLover;c-17856893" wrote:"Chazzzy;c-17856588" wrote:"Justin;c-17856581" wrote:
I think drag racing would be pretty dope as a “masculine activity”. Maybe hunting too or even dirt biking. But those are things that we may never see
When you think about it, it really is a slippery slope. I’m sure the team has had some good discussions amongst themselves about new features and elements to add but then the ideas get shot down when they realize teenage girls (the majority of their players) probably won’t enjoy it. And if the majority of your players don’t want to buy a pack, that’s a substantial loss of revenue. Is it worth it to lose that revenue for the hopes of getting revenue from the “other” players?
So unfortunately I understand why they don’t just go all in with certain stuff. They probably do a ton of expensive marketing research to see if teenage girls would enjoy a certain pack before going into production.
Not to mention I can already see the Twitter rage if the team comes out with packs more geared toward a more masculine audience.
"UM EXCUSE ME EA???? PIZZA ROLLS NOT GENDER ROLES!!!"
"EA is literally saying that only men can use this pack!! What about trans and cis women and non-gender conforming people????"
"Oh great a pack about men and power tools. Whats next? A pack about how great it is to be a woman who does nothing but cook and clean all day?"
It does not need to be content that is marketed as manly stuff. If I would see a garage pack with a woman in overall and gear on the cover I would not think "oh this is for girls". The dust kit has multiple men in the marketing but I still think it's a girl's pack. Also I know not all girls play with dolls and doll houses as a kid.
I don't know much about transgender or gender fluid people but I remember when I first saw CAS again I was like 'how old is this game? Only 2 sexes?". But I read somewhere that will be fixed
There has always been only 2 sexes. Just saying. “Diversity” is what has ruined the sims 4 if I’m being honest. If we, men, were to get a pack towards us there would be a whole backlash by Twitter & this “woke”, cancel culture because apparently that wouldn’t be considered diversity unless it’s aimed towards LGBT, BLM, etc..
So if "Diversity" is what ruined the sims 4, reasonably you are of course against diversifying the game by adding new things for male sims? Would that ruin the game, since it's a form of diversity, or no?
In my opinion, it would only improve the game. I would love new things for my male sims, they could use it with how little/bad our options are.
As I said in my previous comment, there would be backlash because it would not be considered diversity. This new generation apparently determines what’s okay & what’s not okay. If anything, it would most likely be considered degrading or sexist or sensitive towards LGBT stereotypes.
And yes it has ruined the franchise in many ways. Unlike its previous titles, we had so many unique things we don’t see in the sims 4. Like the old raunchy animations & quirky gameplay.
Sims 4 is all over the place without an identity because it’s too focused in trying to include all these cultures, orientations etc without trying to offend. But look how well that worked out with snowy escape.
People want diversity yet when EA does they complain. When they don’t, they complain. Look at the recent article by SimsVip https://simsvip.com/2021/03/26/the-sims-its-time-to-change-the-worlds-literally/
Previous titles were good because they were only focused on gameplay elements.
But enough of going off topic.
Stop! Just stop! Are you telling me that every gay man flirts like the sims do? Really? You wanna talk about diversity and then categorize all gay men as should be feminine? That's offensive! This is not a topic about wanting men to be heterosexual. This is a topic about men being men.
Edit: I wanted to add on that note. That this could also be transferable to women. There are "manly" women in our world as well who would love a garage or do all stuff that is not so domestic
I’m sorry but I’m so lost at what you’re talking about. Where did I say that they flirt like the sims? I never said all gay men are feminine either. I also never talked about men to be heterosexual? I’m so confused at this reply
"luxsylvan;c-17859231" wrote:"Antwerpo;c-17856458" wrote:"Mstybl95;c-17856454" wrote:
Can you elaborate on what you mean by women oriented? Do you mean just because of all the CAS stuff being mainly for adult women?
The kits are a good example. Kitchen stuff, vacuum tools and 90's outfits. Where is my garage?
Yeah that's a pass for me. These aren't things FOR women they're things stereotypically ASSIGNED to women. But last I checked both men and women lived through the 90s, literally so many people enjoy cooking, and cleaning is a basic life necessity. Half of my close women friends in life have been really into cars and even if they weren't plenty of people of all genders have, want, or use garages. So, I strongly disagree with this sentiment. However, I do think the CAS items tend to be very biased, and my male sims really struggle to branch out their fashion choices. Though, I suppose you could say that is also a reflection of the real world and limited choices in typical male clothing vs female clothing. Still, options would be nice because the female clothes don't always translate well to the different frames.
I don't intend to come across as mean, or disrespectful, or a troll, I just vehemently disagree on this specifc point. That's all.