Since the originals still down I just wanted to make this thread as a replacement since there's kind of nowhere to complain anymore and I don't wanna drag down a positivity thread, just merge this with the original when it's back up. Please let's keep this as a civil discussion and avoid it turning into anything, thank you! :)

If you are unsure about the pack really think about what it adds.Winter sports - do you see yourself having a sim go snowboarding/skiing on a regular basis or do you see it as a nice side thing to try once and then move on?The world - does the world look like a place you'd like to play in on a regular or just a world you visit and explore once?Lifestyles - Do you see yourself using lifestyles and giving them to most of your sims or do you plan on just playing with them a bit but not really bother with for the most part?If you can see yourself saying yes to at least one of these then you move on and look forward to the next pack.

The past few days I've turned Forgotten Hollow into a wintery Japanese world and it's just made me feel like what is the point of this pack. Spoiler (Highlight to read)https://i.imgur.com/fWGN2Ys.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/cTU9Dp6.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/Ysvokqz.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/fWGN2Ys.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/cTU9Dp6.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/Ysvokqz.pngThere's already enough Japanese-y style decor in game to create really nice Japanese style houses without this pack, snow is already there in the game so you can already create a winter world, split levelling is coming in the base game, and we already have spa day so you can already create a Japanese spa retreat type lot in the mountains (like the onsen). You can already create a wintery Japanese world, complete with a relaxing spa, without spending 40 bucks on a new pack for it. Just feels a bit of a "what's the point" scenario, you're paying 40 bucks for a few winter sports activites and that's basically the only thing that's actually new, there's a couple nice items that make building Japanese homes slightly easier but that's literally it. It's just... :#

I think the point is that we get some of the things that make building a Japanese house more authentic, like the kotatsu table, and the asian paintings and decors and the paper screen windows and doors. I especially love the new hot tub because it's huge and sims are less crowded in it. :lol: And the new world is very nice too.

I do think that it could have been a game pack. I was expecting it to be a game pack to be honest. The pack is introducing winter sports, excursions (don’t think are coming to the base game), and a beautiful new world. Other than that it kind of falls a bit flat but I’m still excited for all the little details. But I do think so things are missing such as a toddler sling or stroller so they can go for walks as well. If they can sled why can’t they walk too?

What we get in the pack is nice, but it's not EP nice - I'm definitely not paying full price, if I buy it. Now if we had gotten the ability to customize our own hiking trails in other worlds, and use the new snow activities in other worlds aswell, then that would have been worth the price. I don't like nor agree with EP activities that are tied to worlds. Granted Sims 4 has been doing that since City Living, but it still really annoys me. It just gets more jarring with each pack they do that. I would be okay with having certain aspects of a feature being special for the new world, while still giving us a way to do the new activities in the other words. Like allowing swimming in all worlds with Island living. It's NOT too much to ask. And WHY can't they just give us the option to live in the vacation worlds? The notion of vacation worlds is so bad, just change it for crying out loud. And they should upgrade Outdoor retreat to allow hiking with a group in Granite Falls, because hiking in Granite falls plums plums so bad.

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timurjr96
4 years ago
Sims 4 being a closed world game already should try to at least eliminate rabbithole altogether or atleast give the players an option whether we can follow sims exploring the cave or they do it on their own. the amount of rabbithole contents is already equal to that of a sims 3.
apotts
4 years ago
"Sharonia;c-17717756" wrote:

The game definitely has some major autonomy issues that's for sure. I got very annoyed with it a few weeks back because my sims wouldn't sit down to watch TV. It's actually what made me almost give up on the game and inspired me to give TS3 a try.

Sims 3 gets bashed alot for its bugs and lag, but Sims 4 has plenty of it's own issues and they get worse every time you add more content. I do think the Sims in Sims 4 look better without needing as much CC, and build mode is easier, but Sims 2 and 3 were simply more fun to play. Also Sims 4 Sims are a bit too cartoon like for my tastes.
Karamazov123
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago
"temporalgod;c-17719315" wrote:
I'm just disappointed they didn't add any occults to this pack, Japanese Mythology and Folklore are very interesting and definitely worth reading.

This, it's such a waste. We could have had yetis, oni, the Yuki-Onna. At least I can make a white-skinned witch with ice powers and pretend it's the latter.
Onverser
4 years ago
Also I saw Lilsimsies stream on the pack yesterday and it sort of confirmed my thoughts on the winter sports, she seemed to get bored of them and move on after using them about twice. Not sure why they'd make such a big thing out of these activities since lets be honest they aren't very interesting. You just see an animation of your sim going down a slope and that's it
Lonewolf1044
Seasoned Spectator
4 years ago
If Sims 5 does decide to show itself it should have much more as an base game than what Sims 4 had which for me was Bleh! Even now I cannot see no greatness in Sims 4.
AquaGamer1212
New Spectator
4 years ago
"Onverser;c-17721702" wrote:
Also I saw Lilsimsies stream on the pack yesterday and it sort of confirmed my thoughts on the winter sports, she seemed to get bored of them and move on after using them about twice. Not sure why they'd make such a big thing out of these activities since lets be honest they aren't very interesting. You just see an animation of your sim going down a slope and that's it

I mean it’s what you make it tho. If you’re a good storyteller then the pack will last longer because you aren’t skiing all the time or snowboarding and such. lilsimsie isn’t much of a storyteller so she just plays to play so of
Course she’s gonna seem bored.
drake_mccarty
4 years ago
"AquaGamer1212;c-17721772" wrote:
"Onverser;c-17721702" wrote:
Also I saw Lilsimsies stream on the pack yesterday and it sort of confirmed my thoughts on the winter sports, she seemed to get bored of them and move on after using them about twice. Not sure why they'd make such a big thing out of these activities since lets be honest they aren't very interesting. You just see an animation of your sim going down a slope and that's it

I mean it’s what you make it tho. If you’re a good storyteller then the pack will last longer because you aren’t skiing all the time or snowboarding and such. lilsimsie isn’t much of a storyteller so she just plays to play so of
Course she’s gonna seem bored.

For $40 no one should have to use their imagination to make a headline feature have replay value.
timurjr96
4 years ago
"drake_mccarty;c-17721778" wrote:
"AquaGamer1212;c-17721772" wrote:
"Onverser;c-17721702" wrote:
Also I saw Lilsimsies stream on the pack yesterday and it sort of confirmed my thoughts on the winter sports, she seemed to get bored of them and move on after using them about twice. Not sure why they'd make such a big thing out of these activities since lets be honest they aren't very interesting. You just see an animation of your sim going down a slope and that's it

I mean it’s what you make it tho. If you’re a good storyteller then the pack will last longer because you aren’t skiing all the time or snowboarding and such. lilsimsie isn’t much of a storyteller so she just plays to play so of
Course she’s gonna seem bored.

For $40 no one should have to use their imagination to make a headline feature have replay value.

True
AquaGamer1212
New Spectator
4 years ago
"drake_mccarty;c-17721778" wrote:
"AquaGamer1212;c-17721772" wrote:
"Onverser;c-17721702" wrote:
Also I saw Lilsimsies stream on the pack yesterday and it sort of confirmed my thoughts on the winter sports, she seemed to get bored of them and move on after using them about twice. Not sure why they'd make such a big thing out of these activities since lets be honest they aren't very interesting. You just see an animation of your sim going down a slope and that's it

I mean it’s what you make it tho. If you’re a good storyteller then the pack will last longer because you aren’t skiing all the time or snowboarding and such. lilsimsie isn’t much of a storyteller so she just plays to play so of
Course she’s gonna seem bored.

For $40 no one should have to use their imagination to make a headline feature have replay value.

Do why even play the sims if you don’t have an imagination...
Babykittyjade
Rising Observer
4 years ago
"Onverser;c-17721702" wrote:
Also I saw Lilsimsies stream on the pack yesterday and it sort of confirmed my thoughts on the winter sports, she seemed to get bored of them and move on after using them about twice. Not sure why they'd make such a big thing out of these activities since lets be honest they aren't very interesting. You just see an animation of your sim going down a slope and that's it

To be fair we could make that argument for any animation though? How many times can you watch sims play ping pong? Throw water balloons? Play video games?
It's just another activity to do on occasions along with everything else as sims play out their life story. The entire game is repetitive.

The only complaint I have is I would have love to see families hike while carrying toddlers.