So like everyone else I noticed the choices are Binary (one or the other). This post isn't about the gender diversity issues because they've already explained that one.Now the pictures are really small so I might have missed something but there's no option to do both? You either pick interested in/interested in exploring men or women.But there are people who would like to play bi sims. And I get that the Sims are already bi all the time as it currently stands and that's also not good but I'm really worried that they're removing that dynamic altogether from the game and making the new dynamic that you're either interested in the opposite sex or the same sex. They also can't say it's too complicated like integrating the gender diversity options because like we all know, Sims are currently programmed to be bi by default. Also if it's the case that you can just not select tick boxes and they'll behave bi then I'm not really sure how I feel about that either because that feels like bi erasure to me.

I think either or checkbox is only for whether or not a sim is interested in exploring the checkbox not checked on. The ones for romantically/sexually interested will let you choose both or neither.

Who you're interested in are checkboxes. You can click either, both, or neither. They openly said that asexual sims are possible, so it makes sense that clicking both boxes is as easy as clicking neither.Whether you're open to explore is radio buttons, so you can only click one. So a sim might tend one way or the other, but not exclusively so.Sims will default to bi. And many sims who are portrayed as straight or gay will continue to be bi in practice; Brant and Brent Hecking are canonically gay, Don Lothario is canonically straight, but the game won't stop you from romancing any of them. What this counts as is up to you.

"ScarletSimEater;c-18151069" wrote:Who you're interested in are checkboxes. You can click either, both, or neither. They openly said that asexual sims are possible, so it makes sense that clicking both boxes is as easy as clicking neither.Whether you're open to explore is radio buttons, so you can only click one. So a sim might tend one way or the other, but not exclusively so.Sims will default to bi. And many sims who are portrayed as straight or gay will continue to be bi in practice; Brant and Brent Hecking are canonically gay, Don Lothario is canonically straight, but the game won't stop you from romancing any of them. What this counts as is up to you.It would be really cool if instead of a radio button for open to explore, it was a slider to set the curiosity level for exploration. That could be fun.

You can check both boxesPS I am bi/pan too ?

Yup. Both boxes can be checked.From the official blog post at https://ea.com/en-gb/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/sexual-orientation-in-the-sims-4"You can check any combination of attraction boxes (including all or none) to reflect your sim's romantic orientation. Further down the line, we'll be able to expand this to include additional gender identities that we don't have at this time."The question that is being asked for that section of the panel is "who is your sim attracted to?"So, if you click both boxes, they will be attracted to both genders. Click neither box and they will be attracted to neither.That same blog also says this:"Sims, prior to Sexual Orientation essentially use the above setting. They have no inherent attraction to a specific gender, they can have their attraction shift through gameplay, and they will WooHoo with any gender. This is still the default state for a new Sim."So unless you specifically change the settings for a sim, nothing changes. They will still behave exactly as they always have.

So no option for both? (Sexual Preference System)

ValiantRedKnight
New Spectator
3 years ago
I think either or checkbox is only for whether or not a sim is interested in exploring the checkbox not checked on. The ones for romantically/sexually interested will let you choose both or neither.
PlayMyWizard
New Spectator
3 years ago
Who you're interested in are checkboxes. You can click either, both, or neither. They openly said that asexual sims are possible, so it makes sense that clicking both boxes is as easy as clicking neither.

Whether you're open to explore is radio buttons, so you can only click one. So a sim might tend one way or the other, but not exclusively so.

Sims will default to bi. And many sims who are portrayed as straight or gay will continue to be bi in practice; Brant and Brent Hecking are canonically gay, Don Lothario is canonically straight, but the game won't stop you from romancing any of them. What this counts as is up to you.
PenguinFoop
3 years ago
"ScarletSimEater;c-18151069" wrote:
Who you're interested in are checkboxes. You can click either, both, or neither. They openly said that asexual sims are possible, so it makes sense that clicking both boxes is as easy as clicking neither.

Whether you're open to explore is radio buttons, so you can only click one. So a sim might tend one way or the other, but not exclusively so.

Sims will default to bi. And many sims who are portrayed as straight or gay will continue to be bi in practice; Brant and Brent Hecking are canonically gay, Don Lothario is canonically straight, but the game won't stop you from romancing any of them. What this counts as is up to you.

It would be really cool if instead of a radio button for open to explore, it was a slider to set the curiosity level for exploration. That could be fun.
mightyspritesims
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
You can check both boxes

PS I am bi/pan too ?
GlacierSnowGhost
Seasoned Hotshot
3 years ago
Yup. Both boxes can be checked.

From the official blog post at https://ea.com/en-gb/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/sexual-orientation-in-the-sims-4

"You can check any combination of attraction boxes (including all or none) to reflect your sim's romantic orientation. Further down the line, we'll be able to expand this to include additional gender identities that we don't have at this time."

The question that is being asked for that section of the panel is "who is your sim attracted to?"

So, if you click both boxes, they will be attracted to both genders. Click neither box and they will be attracted to neither.

That same blog also says this:

"Sims, prior to Sexual Orientation essentially use the above setting. They have no inherent attraction to a specific gender, they can have their attraction shift through gameplay, and they will WooHoo with any gender. This is still the default state for a new Sim."

So unless you specifically change the settings for a sim, nothing changes. They will still behave exactly as they always have.
PenguinFoop
3 years ago
Here's the problem. When we first learned about this, there was a panic that made us go into a wrong direction in our thinking.

Until we get our hands on it, we won't know the process of how every aspect works. So it's time to sit back, take a breath and see how this goes. They seem to have taken almost if not all situations and worked them in. We'll just have to learn the process.
PenguinFoop
3 years ago
"LeGardePourpre;c-18151678" wrote:
All checked = pansexual/bisexual
None checked = aroace

By default the sims are Aromantic curious bisexual.

https://i.imgur.com/VGdMCBv.png

Hmm, I hope they tweak the life out of that! If that's the only way to play the options, then that means there are very limited interaction levels.

It's like "look, you're either interested in woohoo with both genders or you're not." Where is the curiosity? Where is the doubt? Where is the nuance?

There seems to be no conversation to be had about it.

Instead of:
"Have you ever considered a relationship with another man?"
"I don't know, maybe. I've just never really thought about it."

We get:
"Have you ever considered a relationship with another man?"
"YES. ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO 'TRY' RIGHT NOW!!!"

It just doesn't flow with the whole self-doubt curiosity that comes with being willing to explore. Does that make sense?

I don't know how this is gonna flow. I'll definitely need to check it out myself.
TakThomas
3 years ago
"QueenMercy;c-18151057" wrote:
I think either or checkbox is only for whether or not a sim is interested in exploring the checkbox not checked on. The ones for romantically/sexually interested will let you choose both or neither.

Oh ok that's good. I thought it was like one or the other, didn't realise they were square check boxes. I thought they were the circle ones.
BettyNewbie1
3 years ago
I was not aware there were many other 'asexual' people, I did not know there was a term for my preference (or lack thereof). Is that not amazing something with a major impact, yet quiet, is now in a video game. Wow!
mightyspritesims
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
@BettyNewbie1 That's amazing that this game was able to help you understand something important about yourself. <3

A number of other asexual and/or aromantic simmers have identified themselves here so I hope you can find some folks to talk to if you wish.