"cactusjuice;c-16429926" wrote:
"Erpe;c-16429828" wrote:
"JoAnne65;c-16429268" wrote:
"stilljustme2;c-16428757" wrote:
If MFP hadn't included the C&D related content (pet objects and CAS), would people feel better about the pack?
If it would have included different stuff instead it at least wouldn’t have been a DLC for DLC pack. But I think people are mad about the small animals not being in the EP and the furniture that clearly is part of the same set as in C&D as well.
I agree that the problem seems to be that people still hasn’t accepted that EA now is making both fewer EPs and the remaining EPs smaller than previous EPs. But I don’t think that EA ever will reverse that change.
"jackjack_k;c-16423261" wrote:
"@Cinebar;c-16419622" wrote:
No one raised a 'stink' because Store Content in TS3 are extras and not stuff packs. It's like buying custom content, that is the essence of the TS3 store. And the DLC for DLC stuff pack requires I have an EP if I want to use all the content in it. If I don't have C&D then I don't get any benefit out of a new pet bowl recolor and pet clothes. For the first time ever, I needed an EP to get full benefit out of a stuff pack. That is the difference. TS3's store was like buying all the custom content I could find but paying EA instead of TSR paysite. Paysites must die. I will never pay for CC. However, I was willing to fork out a few dollars (not many) for content from the TS3 store. I will not pay for DLC for DLC which requires I have an EP or other pack to be able to use all the content in the DLC.
That's your perspective, Stuff Packs are extras too.
And there was DLC for DLC on The Sims 3 store too, just saying. So if you're angry at this, you can't then say it was alright in The Sims 3.
Yeah, you keep just saying this, while people keep explaining to you (like Goldmoldar now) that that is really not comparable. Sims 4 SP’s aren’t extras. With 4 EP’s, 6 GP’s and 14 SP’s they’re much more than ‘an extra’. They’re 63% of all extra content offered.
The Sims 3 Store could maybe be seen as extras. But the Sims 4 SPs are clearly meant to be replacements for EPs (just like the GPs also are).
But Erpe why should people accept it, I think a clear message was sent to them with My First Pet and Toddlers etc. Maybe they tested the waters and were surprised at the backlash they received and hopefully will continue to receive, after all plummeting sales make stockholders nervous...
“Vote with your wallet and not with your mouth!” This is an old truth that has been mentioned many times and for all games - not just for EA games or Sims games.
The problem has many times been that people send mixed signals to the game companies when they protest in forums and other places but still just buy the games. This only has the effect that the game companies have stopped listening to opinions from gamers and look at the sales numbers instead.
Toddlers were different because the missing toddlers were also mentioned in all game reviews and this seemed to affect the sales numbers badly. So EA became desperate and decided to make the toddlers anyway. But this hasn’t happened at all in other cases. So it was only an exception.
My First Pet Stuff will likely just sell as well as other SPs anyway - and then EA won’t care. But even so I wouldn’t expect EA to make other SPs that depend on an EP or a GP. The reason is that doing this reduces the number of possible customers for such a SP because not everybody also have the previous EP or GP.
