Speculation. Why We Can't Have An Attraction System

This is one of things i hope does not return in Sims 4, unless they are planning to do it properly and go back and adjust all there premaids. In Sims 3 i watched a previously happy couple with 5 kids, suddenly with seasons or generations (can not remember which) decide they prefer every other Sim they met of the opposite sex instead. I played on epic life spans so both had max skills in many things. Attraction was only awarded to new Sims, not old relationships. Being awarded not compatible zodiac signs did not help ether, i think that was Late night.

Playing Pleasentview in Sims 2 i also encountered the same problems, Don and Daniel where attracted to each other as both where assigned attracted to facial hair. In Sims 2 you could fix it when you rotated around but not every one does that in 3 or 4.

This is something i would love in base game but introduced afterwards, has very mixed results. In 4 all Sims are bisexual which means every other Sim besides the spouse, would be more attractive.

If they where introducing Sims 2, 1 sided attraction, for skills I could sort of live with it, but would still prefer not. If it would be the 2 sided attraction of Sims 3 where my skilled Sims found every lazy, slob attractive, never seriously no.

It will be nice if this system is returned @Cinebar.. I really want to know how do the current Sims attracted to each other. It seems like we just force them to be with their partner (if only they could tell us :p). Instead of trait, I would prefer if the attraction system based is on the Sims personality. It can be from zodiac, blood type, value, etc. And it will be great if they have the turn on/off too.. I don't want my Sims to be attracted to everyone/anyone... :D

And totally agree with your point @Plainevil. If they're planning to have this back, it shouldn't mess up with the existing relationships that players had. Perhaps, it should be added by prompting us to edit the existing played family like what they did with the season, where we need to set the seasons for each save game that we have. Players should be able to override the pre-made households (played) attraction system too. Whilst, for the unplayed household/NPC, it should be updated as what they intended it to be. :)

Really there's so many things Sims could be attracted to beyond traits and skills but those would be perfectly fine to add as well and could be expanded as more traits slowly come in and I mean slowly.

- Long hair, short hair or medium hair
- Color of hair
- Male/Female
- Facial hair
- Perfume/Cologne which could be added with the attraction system
- Walk styles (some might like the masculine walk some might like default or you might have a freaky Sim who loves the goofy walk)
- Skin tone
- Tattoos
- Glasses
- Hats
- Makeup or no makeup
- Attracted to Sims, Vampire or Alien
- Attracted to fit or fat Sims.
- Now that clothing is separated Sims could be attracted to Sims wearing just about anything be it a dress, tank top, jacket or a suit as long as that clothing item is in that category.

What ChadSims2 said. The attraction system would function well with the categories already present in CAS. If they added a zodiac system we could also see the return of compatibility which would make the game way more dynamic than it currently is.

"ChadSims2;c-16800025" wrote:
Really there's so many things Sims could be attracted to beyond traits and skills but those would be perfectly fine to add as well and could be expanded as more traits slowly come in and I mean slowly.

- Long hair, short hair or medium hair
- Color of hair
- Male/Female
- Facial hair
- Perfume/Cologne which could be added with the attraction system
- Walk styles (some might like the masculine walk some might like default or you might have a freaky Sim who loves the goofy walk)
- Skin tone
- Tattoos
- Glasses
- Hats
- Makeup or no makeup
- Attracted to Sims, Vampire or Alien
- Attracted to fit or fat Sims.
- Now that clothing is separated Sims could be attracted to Sims wearing just about anything be it a dress, tank top, jacket or a suit as long as that clothing item is in that category.

You are making me want an attraction system.
Also maybe add income level and or employment or lack there of (hopefully taking into account the new self employment titles we can make).
I could look up the club system but anything in there that helps you select who could be in the club could be added in.
I kind of hope we get something like this one day in a romance kind of pack ...or maybe as the freebie that comes with it.

They could even expand upon fit/fat sims and you sim could choose a body preset and they would be more attracted to sims who closely resemble that preset?

"ChadSims2;c-16800025" wrote:
Really there's so many things Sims could be attracted to beyond traits and skills but those would be perfectly fine to add as well and could be expanded as more traits slowly come in and I mean slowly.

- Long hair, short hair or medium hair
- Color of hair
- Male/Female
- Facial hair
- Perfume/Cologne which could be added with the attraction system
- Walk styles (some might like the masculine walk some might like default or you might have a freaky Sim who loves the goofy walk)
- Skin tone
- Tattoos
- Glasses
- Hats
- Makeup or no makeup
- Attracted to Sims, Vampire or Alien
- Attracted to fit or fat Sims.
- Now that clothing is separated Sims could be attracted to Sims wearing just about anything be it a dress, tank top, jacket or a suit as long as that clothing item is in that category.

Some of those sound like they might work strangely. Especially ones like hair length and anything else that can change by outfit.

I would rather it be based on some things that are more pratical as in life like traits and looks, heavy, thin, blue eyes, brown eyes etc. However, I don't think we will see an attraction system in this game because we are supposed to use all those crystals and mood booster decor to make Sims get into a romantic mood. Then they are attracted to anyone. Doesn't matter who.

Eyes can't be changed so that one might be a good choice. (The game won't change the eye color) but moods could overlap traits such as confident buff, so anyone walking around feeling confident would have that walk, even if temporarily, then the romance would be over as soon as that moodlet disappeared.

They would have to come up with something more than traits because buffs overlap with those, and I don't think they would ever include skin color, and it would be wild if it was based on clothes since the townies pick some doozies. But sure, people are attracted to clothes such as uniforms and are attracted to people who wear or don't wear makeup. Things like good cook might make Sims attracted to anyone since these Sims gain too many cooking skills and too fast. So, not sure they should use skills as a choice, either. By the time a Sim has mastered their career (some of them) they have a boat load of skills so everyone in town would be attracted to them one way or another.

So, I doubt we see an attraction system and the crystals and mood decor is probably all we see and some in this thread are right, after four years and families and couples already established I doubt they try it. But they can prove me wrong if they want to release it. :p

I wouldn't make an attraction system to complicated. If you add to many options it may make finding a sim who meets your sims attractions harder. It shouldn't be that hard but also not that easy. I think focusing on trait is the best option even if their aren't a lot of them since you still can get a good variety of compatible/incompatible traits

Compatible
Creative/Music Lover
Creative/Art Lover
Geek/Genius
Genius/Bookworm
Self Assured/Outgoing
Outgoing/Insider
Evil/Mean
Evil/Kleptomaniac
Goofball/Cheeful
Goofball/Childish
Neat/Squeamish
Slob/Lazy
Snob/Materialistic
Outgoing/Dance Machine
Ambitious/Perfectionist
Genius/Perfectionist
Active/Loves Outdoors
Snob/Self Absorbed

Incompatible
Active/Lazy
Cheerful/Hot-headed/Gloomy
Goofball/Snob
Flirty/Unflirty
Foodie/Glutton
Ambitious/Lazy
Childish/Snob
Childish/Evil
Childish/Hates Children
Evil/Good
Good/Mean
Good/Kleptomaniac
Lazy/Neat
Loves Outdoors/Squeamish
Squeamish /Slob
Squeamish /Glutton
Slob/Neat
Family Oriented/Hates Children
Family Oriented/Non-Commital
Loner/Insider
Loner/Outgoing

After traits I would go hair color and eye color. I also feel like an attraction system would be a great chance for them to introduce likes/dislikes but just simple things like radio stations, TV channels, and color since most items in CAS/BB have a color tag. This would also make it so that a sim will be happier when watching, listening, or wearing something they like and upset when the opposite is done.

Why not have two systems that work independently but also enhance one another? An attraction and a chemistry system.

Being attracted to certain attributes about someone doesn't guarantee there'll be chemistry between the two people. So an attraction system could work where you pick what your sim finds idea in a romantic partner (hair color, eye color, fitness, job status, wealth, occult...) or what they are repused by in another sim (smelly Sims, unemployed/employed...). This should cause there to be different levels of attraction; say you pick three attributes a sim finds attractive in another sim and three attributes they dislike in another sim that when added up would ultimately determine how attractive they find another sim.

A chemistry system would have more to do with how compatible two sims are with each other (things like trait and zodiac compatibility, and skills/hobbies). That way a sim can be attracted to another sim but not compatible with them because of their traits or zodiac sign.... Likewise a sim could not be attracted at all or even repused by another sim but get along great as friends. You could have true soulmates (both sims are attracted to one another and are completely compatible). Or two sims could have opposite traits but compatible zodiacs, creating the "odd couple" dynamic. It'll allow for more unique relationships dynamics to form more naturally in game!

Also unrequited love/crushes! ?
SimA is 100% attracted to SimB and they have great chemistry, the only problem is that SimB is not attracted to any attributes of SimA. They are friends but only SimA wants to be more. ?

I mean, we already have the relationship lables and a romance and friendship bar, all that's left are the tools for us to control and customize it per sim.

Did I mention it should be completely up to the player whether or not their sims have a preference? As in you, the player, can choose to completely opt-out on choosing what a sim is or isn't attracted to, or only select one or two options on one or both categories. Because it's really important to have options.

Attraction system determines how much a sims is romantically interested in another sim. (Sims are more likely to accept flirtations the more attracted they are to another sim.)
Chemistry system determines how compatible two sims are for a relationship/friendship. (The more chemistry the faster the friendship bar increases and the slower it depletes.)

Basically the Sims 2 turn on/turn off and chemistry system mixed with the Sims 3 attraction system.

Also only teen-elder should have an attraction preference but chemistry should affect all sims.