SPIRAL STAIRCASES!

@alanmichael1 Ooooh, you're right. I don't ever have pets in my household so I didn't think of pets. In my mind, pets and toddlers would have no access to the parts of a build accessible only via ladders, and that's something I would be ok with. Maybe the Devs don't think most other simmers would be ok with that limitation, though, and that's one of many reasons they may not be very enthusiastic about devoting time to developing that asset.

What a sham of an excuse, stairs that go at a right angle are a free update but spiral staircases are too much for a stuff pack? Do they really think we're that stupid?

"mjallet;c-17363734" wrote:
What a sham of an excuse, stairs that go at a right angle are a free update but spiral staircases are too much for a stuff pack? Do they really think we're that stupid?

Unlike stuff packs that have not only a budget but also size and content amount limits, the free update have none. So yeah, they can easier add that kind of content via a free patch than through DLC.

"darrenfroggy;c-17363743" wrote:

"mjallet;c-17363734" wrote:
What a sham of an excuse, stairs that go at a right angle are a free update but spiral staircases are too much for a stuff pack? Do they really think we're that stupid?

Unlike stuff packs that have not only a budget but also size and content amount limits, the free update have none. So yeah, they can easier add that kind of content via a free patch than through DLC.

So they spend more money developing stuff that they give us for free, sorry not EA. I don't believe that for a minute.

I would have like ladders, but maybe we can get them in a free update ? They would be nice for attics too.

"mjallet;c-17363750" wrote:

"darrenfroggy;c-17363743" wrote:

"mjallet;c-17363734" wrote:
What a sham of an excuse, stairs that go at a right angle are a free update but spiral staircases are too much for a stuff pack? Do they really think we're that stupid?

Unlike stuff packs that have not only a budget but also size and content amount limits, the free update have none. So yeah, they can easier add that kind of content via a free patch than through DLC.

So they spend more money developing stuff that they give us for free, sorry not EA. I don't believe that for a minute.

Terrain tools, pools, toddlers, modifiable stairs, freelancer careers... you can of course believe what you want but it wouldn't be the first time.
Also this specifically says stuff packs which by design are small. Might just be that things like spiral staircases are more likely to happen in a GP or EP which have less limitations.

Personally, I don't see the reason to complain about the possibility of having spiral staircases in a free update rather than having to pay for them via a pack.

Build mode items don't come in stuff packs. Larger game packs, expansions or free updates. It's really just that simple. Things like windows and doors but you won't find anything complicated. The complicated item in a stuff pack is usually the one game play item it's focused around.

Like others have said, I'd prefer spiral staircases and ladders be added to the base game in a free update. To me those are core game play items and they shouldn't be behind a pay wall.

as the devs said it's too much resources for a stuff pack and money. which funny because ea is a multibillion dollar business.

EA are probably not willing to finance them for more without wanting them to raise the price. For $10 they are probably pretty limited in what they can do. If EA would put in more money then they would expect something in return because they are not going to change their finances just because people want spiral staircases. It's possible Maxis do not want that either, how much that should be included in a stuff pack is an agreement between the developers and the publisher, Maxis have said how much they can deliver and EA is providing them with money to do it. A larger budget generally means that Maxis have more to deliver.

So when they say "not enough resources" they mean that they would have to charge you more or change their agreement with their publisher. They are not really willing to do that for spiral staircases... Hopefully they have decided instead to include them later this year as a free update.

I think the stair update we got is suppose to cover spiral stairs. I don't think they're going to give us anything else.