I really do not like it how the game is blaming the player when a toddler is involved. When toddler or child do not get food by now , the game is waveing with raised finger the player is a bad person. The toddler and child is not the important thing in the game and the AI of this game is very obstructive very often by solving any needs. (pancakes are placed on the chair for toddlers. Toddler is placed into the chair. Toddler is waving for an adult to placed out of the chair to get angry because it has hunger. and the adults are stop every other players instructions to put the child out of the highchair.) The worst of this whole situation is that game is blaming the player in a text box, because this toddler or child has hunger.There are to much animations that are more important than fulfill the needs. Sim have to go to toilet. Instead of player's instruction to go to the toilet, the Sim is standing on spot and crying "he have to go to toilet". As it would not be enough, the Sim does not run to toilet he goes in slow motion.Change this back how it was handled in Sims 1, please.

Those are interesting complaints, I never looked at it that way, but you are right about the high chair. If the parent can't stop picking the toddler up and interrupting it eating then it's not the player's fault, it's the half baked high chair.

Oh boy, Sims 1? Intense. I like how it was handled in Sims 2.What you mention about the high chair is just bad coding. It's a good idea to use a high chair, but sims will immediate put down the toddler after sitting him in it if you're not constantly canceling the action in the queue. There's mods to stop that, but it shouldn't be necessary.

If an object doesn't work correctly players shouldn't have to use a mod or do a work around like I did (put food on floor or on table for toddlers) and the high chair should be removed from game. Nothing annoys a player more than a useless object.

"DreamaDove;c-16853159" wrote:Oh boy, Sims 1? Intense. I like how it was handled in Sims 2.What you mention about the high chair is just bad coding. It's a good idea to use a high chair, but sims will immediate put down the toddler after sitting him in it if you're not constantly canceling the action in the queue. There's mods to stop that, but it shouldn't be necessary.I don't usually mind too much when the game has annoying things by design, usually it's something easily ignored or I can figure out the "trick". But I agree...i hate when there's an object or aspect of the game that I like to use and all it does is add frustration. Especially if it's a bug or glitch that never gets fixed. The high chair should be helpful not a hindrance to the game.

"Cinebar;c-16853178" wrote:If an object doesn't work correctly players shouldn't have to use a mod or do a work around like I did (put food on floor or on table for toddlers) and the high chair should be removed from game. Nothing annoys a player more than a useless object.Why is it better to delete something that isn't working properly rather than give people the option to simply not use it? I use the high chairs with my toddlers and to be honest they work fine for me, at least with the way I play. And without them, we wouldn't be able to take toddlers out to restaurants to eat.Something that doesn't work for me would be the talking toilets, which seem to cancel out interactions every time a sim enters the bathroom. They've had this issue for two years now and to my knowledge it hasn't been fixed. I never use them because of it, but I wouldn't say they should just go and remove them because for all I know there are people out there who don't care about that or don't mind playing around the issue.

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Cinebar
7 years ago
Those are interesting complaints, I never looked at it that way, but you are right about the high chair. If the parent can't stop picking the toddler up and interrupting it eating then it's not the player's fault, it's the half baked high chair.
DreamaDove
7 years ago
Oh boy, Sims 1? Intense. I like how it was handled in Sims 2.

What you mention about the high chair is just bad coding. It's a good idea to use a high chair, but sims will immediate put down the toddler after sitting him in it if you're not constantly canceling the action in the queue. There's mods to stop that, but it shouldn't be necessary.
Cinebar
7 years ago
If an object doesn't work correctly players shouldn't have to use a mod or do a work around like I did (put food on floor or on table for toddlers) and the high chair should be removed from game. Nothing annoys a player more than a useless object.
N0NoTToN0N
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
"DreamaDove;c-16853159" wrote:
Oh boy, Sims 1? Intense. I like how it was handled in Sims 2.

What you mention about the high chair is just bad coding. It's a good idea to use a high chair, but sims will immediate put down the toddler after sitting him in it if you're not constantly canceling the action in the queue. There's mods to stop that, but it shouldn't be necessary.

I don't usually mind too much when the game has annoying things by design, usually it's something easily ignored or I can figure out the "trick".
But I agree...i hate when there's an object or aspect of the game that I like to use and all it does is add frustration. Especially if it's a bug or glitch that never gets fixed. The high chair should be helpful not a hindrance to the game.
kaeyresky
7 years ago
"Cinebar;c-16853178" wrote:
If an object doesn't work correctly players shouldn't have to use a mod or do a work around like I did (put food on floor or on table for toddlers) and the high chair should be removed from game. Nothing annoys a player more than a useless object.

Why is it better to delete something that isn't working properly rather than give people the option to simply not use it? I use the high chairs with my toddlers and to be honest they work fine for me, at least with the way I play. And without them, we wouldn't be able to take toddlers out to restaurants to eat.

Something that doesn't work for me would be the talking toilets, which seem to cancel out interactions every time a sim enters the bathroom. They've had this issue for two years now and to my knowledge it hasn't been fixed. I never use them because of it, but I wouldn't say they should just go and remove them because for all I know there are people out there who don't care about that or don't mind playing around the issue.
Cinebar
7 years ago
"Cupid;c-16853210" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-16853178" wrote:
If an object doesn't work correctly players shouldn't have to use a mod or do a work around like I did (put food on floor or on table for toddlers) and the high chair should be removed from game. Nothing annoys a player more than a useless object.

Why is it better to delete something that isn't working properly rather than give people the option to simply not use it? I use the high chairs with my toddlers and to be honest they work fine for me, at least with the way I play. And without them, we wouldn't be able to take toddlers out to restaurants to eat.

Something that doesn't work for me would be the talking toilets, which seem to cancel out interactions every time a sim enters the bathroom. They've had this issue for two years now and to my knowledge it hasn't been fixed. I never use them because of it, but I wouldn't say they should just go and remove them because for all I know there are people out there who don't care about that or don't mind playing around the issue.

I don't know why your high chairs work correctly but when toddlers were released this was the number one complaint. It is still a problem. Sure, if you make your Sims work while the toddler is in chair, maybe they will not be obsessed to take the kid out of the chair etc. however, if you leave them alone that is the first thing they want to do. Put in, take out. It's been one of the biggest complaints since toddlers came out.

The talking toilets may not work because they are too close to a wall. I don't know, but in the middle of a floor you might find out they work better than they did. I can't say why some things work for some and some don't. I just know the highchair has been the brunt of many complaints since it was patched into game. Nannies also take the kids out of the chair over and over. It would seem after two or three years they would have looked into the problem.
kaeyresky
7 years ago
"Cinebar;c-16853222" wrote:
"Cupid;c-16853210" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-16853178" wrote:
If an object doesn't work correctly players shouldn't have to use a mod or do a work around like I did (put food on floor or on table for toddlers) and the high chair should be removed from game. Nothing annoys a player more than a useless object.

Why is it better to delete something that isn't working properly rather than give people the option to simply not use it? I use the high chairs with my toddlers and to be honest they work fine for me, at least with the way I play. And without them, we wouldn't be able to take toddlers out to restaurants to eat.

Something that doesn't work for me would be the talking toilets, which seem to cancel out interactions every time a sim enters the bathroom. They've had this issue for two years now and to my knowledge it hasn't been fixed. I never use them because of it, but I wouldn't say they should just go and remove them because for all I know there are people out there who don't care about that or don't mind playing around the issue.

I don't know why your high chairs work correctly but when toddlers were released this was the number one complaint. It is still a problem. Sure, if you make your Sims work while the toddler is in chair, maybe they will not be obsessed to take the kid out of the chair etc. however, if you leave them alone that is the first thing they want to do. Put in, take out. It's been one of the biggest complaints since toddlers came out.

The talking toilets may not work because they are too close to a wall. I don't know, but in the middle of a floor you might find out they work better than they did. I can't say why some things work for some and some don't. I just know the highchair has been the brunt of many complaints since it was patched into game. Nannies also take the kids out of the chair over and over. It would seem after two or three years they would have looked into the problem.

My point wasn't to say that just because I have no issues with the high chairs that they aren't broken (I like to keep my sims busy while the toddler is eating, so maybe that's why I haven't run into any issues yet), nor that it's acceptable that they have been broken for so long. I'm just saying, why should they just be removed from the game when there are people out there getting use from them?
Cinebar
7 years ago
I'm not saying they should be removed I'm saying it's worthless to most, since they have to do work arounds (keep other Sims busy) while it's in use. If it's that bad, it's annoying and way past time they fixed it, if it's not by design. ETA: It's broken, right? Or it was for me and that's been years, so no need to keep it in game, if they can't do any better than that. Frankly I'm tired of their excuses.
DreamaDove
7 years ago
I *like* the high chairs. They're cute. I want them fixed, not taken out. This game is empty enough as it is, no need to make it even barer.
Cinebar
7 years ago
"DreamaDove;c-16853244" wrote:
I *like* the high chairs. They're cute. I want them fixed, not taken out. This game is empty enough as it is, no need to make it even barer.

But if an object is broken and you jump hoops to use it (work arounds) then it shouldn't be there taking up pixels and polys.

ETA: It's been this way since the release of toddlers two or three years? It's clear it's not going to be 'fixed' how much are you guys willing to tolerate? After two or three years where do you guys draw the line? Just keep buying? I think it's way past time they get off their duffs. (no offense to them but c'mon) TS4 is four years old and buggier than TS3 with 11 EPs. Think about it.

I use logic, 40x52 weeks X 4 years= 8,320 hours on this game and it still has the same old bugs? Good grief.