I don't think there's no other conclusion I come up than their lack of interest for the team to create them at all. With the recent expansion pack, there was and is the right opporunity to patch firefighters, since Island Living provided a feature in Sulani where friendly citizens put out fires in active household's lot. Before that, when Kleptomaniac trait was added via update, developers could have just created a spawning NPC with that enforced trait behavior to appear at a certain time pushed to swipe things. With the existing mechanics that could been used to develop NPCs pushed to be act upon, you would think that we get the feature that's been highly requested by now through out the five year passed mark. Or does anyone don't think so though, but would like to convince me otherwise? I think it's a bit shame that developers seem to refusing spending resource on said NPCs that would receptionally pay off.

I agree :s I need some fire fighters.. my sims have lost so much stuff and the "insurance" could replace a few plants. As for burglars for my sims sake I wouldn't want thoroughly however it could add more fun to the game :D

I want them too. I would hope that they come in a patch or pack with vehicles when we get the 64bit version. I am wondering if that 64bit version is actually coming now though. Those 13 year olds EA aimed at in 2014 are much older and surely can take the stress by now. :D

"DragonCat159;d-964269" wrote:I don't think there's no other conclusion I come up than their lack of interest for the team to create them at all. With the recent expansion pack, there was and is the right opporunity to patch firefighters, since Island Living provided a feature in Sulani where friendly citizens put out fires in active household's lot. Before that, when Kleptomaniac trait was added via update, developers could have just created a spawning NPC with that enforced trait behavior to appear at a certain time pushed to swipe things. With the existing mechanics that could been used to develop NPCs pushed to be act upon, you would think that we get the feature that's been highly requested by now through out the five year passed mark. Or does anyone don't think so though, but would like to convince me otherwise? I think it's a bit shame that developers seem to refusing spending resource on said NPCs that would receptionally pay off.Maybe the helpful neighbors are a trial balloon? To see if that mechanic will work at all before adding such a popular feature. If it hadn't worked nobody would really have been the wiser and nobody would be disappointed or angry. So perhaps the helpful neighbors were a way to see if that feature would work without bringing the firey wrath of the community down upon themselves if it didn't.

"Pamtastic72;c-17195372" wrote:"DragonCat159;d-964269" wrote:I don't think there's no other conclusion I come up than their lack of interest for the team to create them at all. With the recent expansion pack, there was and is the right opporunity to patch firefighters, since Island Living provided a feature in Sulani where friendly citizens put out fires in active household's lot. Before that, when Kleptomaniac trait was added via update, developers could have just created a spawning NPC with that enforced trait behavior to appear at a certain time pushed to swipe things. With the existing mechanics that could been used to develop NPCs pushed to be act upon, you would think that we get the feature that's been highly requested by now through out the five year passed mark. Or does anyone don't think so though, but would like to convince me otherwise? I think it's a bit shame that developers seem to refusing spending resource on said NPCs that would receptionally pay off.Maybe the helpful neighbors are a trial balloon? To see if that mechanic will work at all before adding such a popular feature. If it hadn't worked nobody would really have been the wiser and nobody would be disappointed or angry. So perhaps the helpful neighbors were a way to see if that feature would work without bringing the firey wrath of the community down upon themselves if it didn't. Not how that works. At most I would say this would be how they cover most of the cost of making them. We didn’t get FF or burglars, but that doesn’t mean they can’t rehash these mechanics into those NPCs with less work than making them from scratch. Even that’s a stretch but its more plausible than the studio releasing a feature they can’t even confirm works.

I heard it was because people got scared when the burglar music came on but I think that's a load of plum. I would love to have them back in my game! To me they are part of what makes The Sims what it is.

The absence of firefighters&burglars a deliberate choice and may not see the light?

28 Replies

superdupergen
7 years ago
I agree :s I need some fire fighters.. my sims have lost so much stuff and the "insurance" could replace a few plants. As for burglars for my sims sake I wouldn't want thoroughly however it could add more fun to the game :D
Simburian
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
I want them too. I would hope that they come in a patch or pack with vehicles when we get the 64bit version. I am wondering if that 64bit version is actually coming now though. Those 13 year olds EA aimed at in 2014 are much older and surely can take the stress by now. :D
JanuaryGarnet08
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
"DragonCat159;d-964269" wrote:
I don't think there's no other conclusion I come up than their lack of interest for the team to create them at all. With the recent expansion pack, there was and is the right opporunity to patch firefighters, since Island Living provided a feature in Sulani where friendly citizens put out fires in active household's lot. Before that, when Kleptomaniac trait was added via update, developers could have just created a spawning NPC with that enforced trait behavior to appear at a certain time pushed to swipe things.

With the existing mechanics that could been used to develop NPCs pushed to be act upon, you would think that we get the feature that's been highly requested by now through out the five year passed mark. Or does anyone don't think so though, but would like to convince me otherwise? I think it's a bit shame that developers seem to refusing spending resource on said NPCs that would receptionally pay off.

Maybe the helpful neighbors are a trial balloon? To see if that mechanic will work at all before adding such a popular feature. If it hadn't worked nobody would really have been the wiser and nobody would be disappointed or angry. So perhaps the helpful neighbors were a way to see if that feature would work without bringing the firey wrath of the community down upon themselves if it didn't.
drake_mccarty
7 years ago
"Pamtastic72;c-17195372" wrote:
"DragonCat159;d-964269" wrote:
I don't think there's no other conclusion I come up than their lack of interest for the team to create them at all. With the recent expansion pack, there was and is the right opporunity to patch firefighters, since Island Living provided a feature in Sulani where friendly citizens put out fires in active household's lot. Before that, when Kleptomaniac trait was added via update, developers could have just created a spawning NPC with that enforced trait behavior to appear at a certain time pushed to swipe things.

With the existing mechanics that could been used to develop NPCs pushed to be act upon, you would think that we get the feature that's been highly requested by now through out the five year passed mark. Or does anyone don't think so though, but would like to convince me otherwise? I think it's a bit shame that developers seem to refusing spending resource on said NPCs that would receptionally pay off.

Maybe the helpful neighbors are a trial balloon? To see if that mechanic will work at all before adding such a popular feature. If it hadn't worked nobody would really have been the wiser and nobody would be disappointed or angry. So perhaps the helpful neighbors were a way to see if that feature would work without bringing the firey wrath of the community down upon themselves if it didn't.

Not how that works. At most I would say this would be how they cover most of the cost of making them. We didn’t get FF or burglars, but that doesn’t mean they can’t rehash these mechanics into those NPCs with less work than making them from scratch. Even that’s a stretch but its more plausible than the studio releasing a feature they can’t even confirm works.
manakochi
7 years ago
I heard it was because people got scared when the burglar music came on but I think that's a load of plum. I would love to have them back in my game! To me they are part of what makes The Sims what it is.
Purrloin9
7 years ago
I never thought about that connection with the Sulani citizens. I guess if they ever do create firefighters, they'll just reuse that same mechanic.
OldeSimsFan
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
"Simburian;c-17195326" wrote:
I want them too. I would hope that they come in a patch or pack with vehicles when we get the 64bit version. I am wondering if that 64bit version is actually coming now though. Those 13 year olds EA aimed at in 2014 are much older and surely can take the stress by now. :D

True, but each year produces a new crop of 12-13 year olds, so EA never looses its target market. The veterans, however, continue to age, loose interest in/get disgusted with the pap, move on so over time EA will have their ideal world, a mass of Pavlov's dogs that will eagerly buy up whatever rubbish they put out simply becasue it's EA rubbish. At least that is what the plan seems to be from the view of age and simming since day 1 of Sims 1.
Trykmi
7 years ago
I think they didn't put them in simply because they can't manage to make it work. On the light of the friendly citizen and how useless that feature is, I'm convinced that they removed firefighters etc because they would just come to your house, aim for the PC and spend 3 hours on it. We already have random people coming inside the house to do that.
Saneksemoo
7 years ago
"SiliClone;c-17197460" wrote:
I think they didn't put them in simply because they can't manage to make it work. On the light of the friendly citizen and how useless that feature is, I'm convinced that they removed firefighters etc because they would just come to your house, aim for the PC and spend 3 hours on it. We already have random people coming inside the house to do that.

Do vampires that break in too hog in the computer without feeling? Honestly, should have reused that system with "swipe" queued up and for NPC to be selected that meet the condition (career/aspiration + kleptomaniac trait.
Cinebar
7 years ago
They don't need firefighters, they can just use Alexis to turn on sprinklers. Less animation, time has move on, no newspaper no firefighters, just let some employee sitting behind a screen in the Matrix (Alexis) take care of it. I'm actually suprised they didn't add that option to just click an object and be done with it. Saves money and saves time and only takes a few strings of code.

Cheap is the name of this game while pretending it's the state of current times and a reflection of life in current times. Don't need burglars, either, just have things go missing through the use of the Sim pc. Less animation and can pretend it's a sign of the times, burglars have given up physically coming into buildings and using the internet instead. See, I can think like Maxis, too. Cheap and less work.