The mean and evil traits...

I prefer for them to keep those actions autonomous. It makes the traits meaningless if you remove them, and I'm so over traits that don't do much to truly change my Sim's personality.

It doesn't bother me too much. My main Sim is the big three with Mean, Evil, and Hot Headed, and I think it suits the traits pretty well for her to be mean to even her best friend sometimes. For her friends and family, I never let it dip too far down, anyway.

Heck, sometimes I think the traits don't make her mean enough sometimes. Like when she gets a whim to apologize to someone she's been mean to, especially to someone she's fully in the red with. Doesn't make any sense for a mean/evil Sim to want that.

I don't think evil sims should be autonomously mean.. because they could be actually be charming people with a deviant plan. Sims with a mean trait though .. well mean people are sometimes/often mean to even people they love, then they have to work at the relationship to keep it up.. I don't think I'd want them to necessarily tweak that down but I can understand the frustration of not being able to play the way you want to or see it happening.

I've never had too many problems with the Evil trait really; one of my first sims ended up being given that trait and I've learned to morph his unique personality around it. He has just the right amount of mean sometimes but is not overtly mean when I make it so. It's Mean sims I generally dislike, but it's one of the few negative traits that have any real influence in anything. The Mean trait can carry itself to various interesting stories, like ones involving abuse, but it is still possible to have a decent relationship with a Mean sim (i.e. one of my sims had a boyfriend who was occasionally mean to him whenever they went out, and ironically it was my sim that always had to apologise to him after he casually insults him; abuse much?)

If you personally find it unreasonable for you, I suggest simply saving you the trouble and apply the positive character values onto the Mean/Evil sims if you have Parenthood, especially the Good Manners one. Applying that on my fave evil sim actually helped me round out his personality and now he doesn't occasionally insult his own mother, wife, and toddler son anymore and only relishes in people's misery now.

"paradiseplanet;c-16644392" wrote:
I've never had too many problems with the Evil trait really; one of my first sims ended up being given that trait and I've learned to morph his unique personality around it. He has just the right amount of mean sometimes but is not overtly mean when I make it so. It's Mean sims I generally dislike, but it's one of the few negative traits that have any real influence in anything. The Mean trait can carry itself to various interesting stories, like ones involving abuse, but it is still possible to have a decent relationship with a Mean sim (i.e. one of my sims had a boyfriend who was occasionally mean to him whenever they went out, and ironically it was my sim that always had to apologise to him after he casually insults him; abuse much?)

If you personally find it unreasonable for you, I suggest simply saving you the trouble and apply the positive character values onto the Mean/Evil sims if you have Parenthood, especially the Good Manners one. Applying that on my fave evil sim actually helped me round out his personality and now he doesn't occasionally insult his own mother, wife, and toddler son anymore and only relishes in people's misery now.

I love the idea of giving an evil sim good manners! That seems like it would make a really interesting combination of traits.

Also I like when my mean sims are mean to the people closest to them. Personally, I like to use that trait and see them actually behave as a mean sim. Its so frustrating when my mean sims are too nice because then what was the point of having them be mean.