The problem with sims 4 worlds in packs and the solutions.

Im at a point where I dont really want new worlds either way, we got so darn many at this point.

I would love it tho if we could empty all the lots in a world at once or simply choose to start new games with empty worlds...it is sooo tedious to place empty lots on every lot in every world one at a time.

I would love some empty worlds.

I'm over it. I'm sick of their excuses. How come 8 years later, we have to have max 12 lot worlds? When TS4 came out there were simmers with only 32 bit PCs, yet we had worlds with over 20 lots? Explain that to me. And not only that, this is NOT an open world, literally ONLY ONE LOT LOADS AT A TIME!! So who cares how many player created buildings are in the world?

I think it has to do with them just wanting to showcase their worlds and not allow simmers to "mess it up". They're very proud of their worlds based upon a statement that was once made by SimGuruEugi when asked why players couldn't make their own apartment buildings.

If we had allowed the creation of apartment buildings from Build/Buy, we would not have been able to achieve the look we were going for.

https://simsvip.com/2016/09/21/sims-4-city-living-simgurueugi-explains-apartment-limitations/

Or the other reason is ..... players beg for new worlds! They will literally buy anything just to get the world because they need more lots. Well if they gave us large worlds with 20 lots each, that would mean players would have more areas to build and might be less apt to immediately purchase a pack just for the world.

It's greed! I don't believe the performance issue excuse. This is probably one of the lowest-poly/textures games out there besides Minecraft and Roblox!

How about actually making simmers take some responsibility for their own PC/Laptop. If you are on a low-end machine with bare minimun memory and onboard graphics and you flood your worlds with a massive amount of overly cluttered lots and you start to experience lag and your personal performance takes a hit, that's on them! They know the limitations of their PC.

TS4 is not the players game, it's the dev's game. You either accept the limitations and play the way they think you should or you go back to older versions that allowed more player creativity.

I'm just hoping and praying that Paralives gives us many more lots in the world and the freedom to change it how we the players want.

I want a CAW tool that lets us create a world and place as many lots as we want. And also, let us delete worlds. That way, people can choose to have as little or as many lots as they want, can get rid of worlds they don't want/need, and adjust the game to fit our specs. If you have to, make it so that certain worlds can't be deleted unless certain assets are in other worlds. (Mt. Komorebi can't be deleted unless another world has a mountain and onsen, so the aspirations don't break; Copperdale can't be deleted if you don't have a high school and auditorium in another world.)

"Chicklet453681;c-18233782" wrote:
How come 8 years later, we have to have max 12 lot worlds? When TS4 came out there were simmers with only 32 bit PCs, yet we had worlds with over 20 lots? Explain that to me.

Probably because the game had virtually nil DLC at that time. Maybe they're trying to prevent (more aptly, mitigate) a Sims 3 situation where the game will have to encourage you to disable packs for the best performance?

Honestly I just want them to stop adding world to every pack when there is no reason for the pack theme to include a world

not only does it eat whole loads of performance for people who only want the gameplay of those pack to have all these worlds they barely use cause they're meh about the particular world theme

its also not satisfying the people who want these big worlds of whatever that apparently cannot be a thing because pack has to have other stuff

like geez how about we just do gamepacks that are all gameplay and world packs that are all world and stuff packs that are all stuff

and simply don't ep at all

also if world pack was like gp in the 20e tier it theoretically wouldn't cost player any extra to be able to choose which content they prefer or if they want both

cause world pack + game pack would still = ep price

we just would likely have way more gameplay because there wouldn't be the excuse of "we added pretty world so that makes this ep instead of gp"

"pvrescue1;c-18233794" wrote:

"Chicklet453681;c-18233782" wrote:
How come 8 years later, we have to have max 12 lot worlds? When TS4 came out there were simmers with only 32 bit PCs, yet we had worlds with over 20 lots? Explain that to me.

Probably because the game had virtually nil DLC at that time. Maybe they're trying to prevent (more aptly, mitigate) a Sims 3 situation where the game will have to encourage you to disable packs for the best performance?

Sims 4 to manny simmers is just as buggy as sims 3 . I will say this though the team is fixing bugs and trying to improve gameplay .

I'm also done with small worlds. Even if the world is beutiful I can build the story around one or two small families. That's ridiculous. In 2003 The Sims Superstar introduced the world with 9 lots when in 2018 The Sims 4 Get Famous could handle only 11. In 2002 The Sims Unleasched expanded the base game world by 31 lots, when 20 years later expansions can only have 12 lots. The aspect of shrinking worlds really discourages me to platy The SIms 4. To many compromises everywhere and every time. Tiny worlds, unmatching swatches, beddings attached to the bed frame... These are small things which can be improved easly but EA chooses to not do that.

My problem in general is the fact that EA decides how I have to play the game.

For me, there are three big problems with the worlds they create:

1) Lots and world objects can't be edited. In TS3, you could add/remove lots and world decor, which meant you could customize the world. In TS4, there are lots I don't use because there's world decor that I can't alter. In addition, there are plenty of lots that aren't a great size or bizarrely don't meet the road or fill a space as completely as they could.
Examples include houses in Strangerville/Glimmerbrook with stone planters out front that I can't remove, or the house in downtown Copperdale that is half the size of the neighboring shell house yet has loads of empty room behind it that is unusable, or that house in Tartosa on the top of the hill with a strip of empty un-editable land around it.

2) Neighborhoods are getting bigger and bigger, but the worlds feel empty and fake. Compare the feeling of the neighborhoods in Willow Creek, where all five lots are together and you can create neighbors, with the feeling of later neighborhoods like Evergreen or Copperdale where your sim is surrounded by empty fake houses. Also, bigger neighborhoods feel empty and lifeless when there are still only 20 active sims loaded at a time. Copperdale feels like a ghost town in my game.

3) There aren't enough lots. Since we can't add our own, all players are being capped by the needs of players who have the least powerful gaming set-ups. I'm not asking the team to cut off those players, but if they gave us the tools to edit worlds ourselves the control would be in our hands. San Sequoia only has 12 lots - perfect, perhaps, for a player whose PC can't handle any more than that. But mine can, so give me the tools necessary to add another 10 lots in my game.

I'm not sure if I would buy world packs, because I have a problem with the team's apparent design goals for the worlds they produce. World tools that let you edit the world, so we can change and customize things the way we want, would be the best solution in my opinion.

"Gordy;c-18233790" wrote:
I want a CAW tool that lets us create a world and place as many lots as we want. And also, let us delete worlds. That way, people can choose to have as little or as many lots as they want, can get rid of worlds they don't want/need, and adjust the game to fit our specs. If you have to, make it so that certain worlds can't be deleted unless certain assets are in other worlds. (Mt. Komorebi can't be deleted unless another world has a mountain and onsen, so the aspirations don't break; Copperdale can't be deleted if you don't have a high school and auditorium in another world.)

I like the idea of deleting worlds but perhaps it’s not possible due to Sims being able to visit everywhere. I don’t use Oasis Springs as I prefer StrangerVille and would like to remove it!

In the Sims 3 you could hide lots you didn’t like so perhaps an option to hide worlds might be easier? ?.

Prompts before delete/hide is good!

Another tick in options to say which worlds Sims can visit might help, although for me it would be certain Sims I would want to stop rather than all. It’s odd seeing Vlad and the Vatore vampires as walkbys in StrangerVille during the day. If I want a Sim to live in Henford, I would like that to stop them walking through larger towns and San MyShuno etc.

It’s frustrating Sims go anywhere despite a story you’re doing that should mean they don’t automatically go there.

I would love to make my own Japanese theme world. ?

I think an empty world is possible as a ‘kit’. However there would have to be options to allow decoration placement in the world otherwise it’s not really creating your own. It would be just getting extra lots.