This game is unplayable

Agreed. The patches for the last couple of years have broken more than they have fixed. Good thing my main TS 4 stops with DU and doesn't have Seasons. And is offline.

I recently got so fed up with the bugs and glitches, I'm giving up on the Sims 4 for the time being. I agree with you, it is just too frustrating to play.
After playing for 30 hours over the past 2 weeks, I have a long list of bugs.

-sims' food getting stuck in the oven because my sim gets distracted while cooking, and then they can't remove it.

-sims with no evil or mean trait being unkind to each other

-sims napping on couches rather than sleeping on beds

-sims not using the sink in the bathroom they are using

-sims cannot cut wedding cake.

-Garden plants devolving to dirt piles, still in 2022 :(

-High school Grading System is broken

-Horrible random frame-rate drops and lagging

-Loyal trait is broken

-Toddler interactions not working

-Occasional freezing and crashing

I have a decent gaming computer, and I'm pretty diligent about updating my mods, so it shouldn't be this terrible. I feel like I'm constantly searching for bug fixes for this game on google.

This December update better fix a lot of bugs. The game is in an abysmal state, and I'm struggling to enjoy the game whilst also dealing with all of the bugs.

I started playing the game much less after the wants and fears update... my sims kept constantly getting fears, I couldn't even focus on playing one sim because then the other sims in that household felt ignored.

And I haven't updated my game since September either because I heard about sims being constantly mean to each other after the October update (loyal trait patch), which will hopefully be fixed in December so I can at least update my game and go online on the gallery.

And I don't really feel like building either because build mode is lagging so much (which can probably be improved by starting a new save but I don't want to do that). Other than that, the game runs fine but High School Years felt so incredibly lackluster that I have started playing other games instead...

I still boot up the game, but I feel less motivated to play it. Especially if I have to hope that modders fixes bugs that never seem to be fixed, I recently found a mod which fixes the distorted foxes from Cottage Living, that bug still hasn't been fixed since Cottage Living was released.

I don't want to stop playing but unfortunately gameplay (mainly live mode) is becoming a frustration for the following reasons:

- It takes ages to get my Sims to do what I want them to do because an action to check their phone or talk to the nearest random townie takes over first.

- The constant obsessive phone checking whilst walking along. What's the point of having amusing walk styles if they are forever going to be interrupted by phone use?

- I can't take my Sims to a community lot without being bombarded by floods of NPC townies (am sure the numbers have increased recently). They always interrupt my sims' conversations, butt in when two of my Sims are trying to spend some quality time together (no it's not okay for you to sit here. My Sims are having a PRIVATE chat!) stand in the way when I'm trying to do a photoshoot and hog all the equipment on a lot so that it takes several attempts for my Sims to actually be able to use a community item.
I wouldn't want no townies at all, but would like to choose when my Sims interact with them and not have every conversation be a free for all.

- Mermaid eyes and scales no longer link to human/land form in my game's CAS, despite having link 'All' checked. I like to make colourful, fantastical looking land walkers but can't currently create any new mermaids the way I used to because of this bug.

- There are options to make outgoing, confident and sports clique (Bro) Sims in CAS but still no Shy trait.* 'Loner,' to me, feels more like introversion than shyness and I am disappointed that after all this time there is still no differentiation between the two in the game.

- The random meanness bug is still not fixed in my game, and it is causing my Sims to gain hurt sentiments nearly every time.

- My Sims relationships with other Sims I have created deteriorates rapidly over a couple of days. Sometimes they forget each other completely. Yet when my sims meet a townie or premade once, they seem to remember them forever and have developed the inexplicable ability to become permanent friends despite never having socialised with said NPC or premade since. Sometimes this has happened with Sims they have never even met. Those are not the relationships I'm interested in developing! This is especially annoying when playing my loner sims as it jars with the personality and stories I'm trying to imagine for them.

- Despite having neighbourhood stories turned off, I am still getting phonecalls from my Sims about relationship advice (and again, my own Sims phone up about people they've never even met or only met once). I am NOT INTERESTED in the relationship drama of the whole neighbourhood! I just want to do my own thing with my own Sims.

- It's not that I don't want any contact with premade or townie Sims but I would like to be able to choose when, where and how much my sims interact with them. The social side of gameplay does seem to have gone a bit overboard. My Sims gain and lose sentiments faster than I can keep up with.
With all of the above, I do feel a little llike I'm having a 'real life' extrovert dating relationship story forced on my gameplay against my will. But that is not how I want to play.

- And finally... the Mischief interaction has been a wasted opportunity. Instead of creative visual pranks, most of the options seem to be an extension of the Mean interaction, some have the same animation as many other speaking interactions and some really should be in Mean because they border on bullying (manipulating people's confidence is not a fun prank to do and shouldn't be classified as such). The Sabotage interaction was especially disappointing. I wanted my Sim to be a master prank puller, not a gaslighter.

* I don't own all the packs so if there is a shyness trait available in one then ignore that particular comment.

I spent half my most recent game play resetting family relationships after a love triangle developed between Grandmother, Mother, and Daughter (thank the simming gods for MCCC). I still have to use a mod to stop the incessant phone use (yeah a mermaid in the middle of swimming from one area to another is not gonna pull out their phone half way across the ocean), kids randomly getting stuck attending school, DHD isn't working for me at all, still can't turn of wants and needs, rampant ageism is rampant with every elder sim still being stuck in terrified mode due to fear of death, etc, etc, etc.

If it wasn't for the availability of mods I seriously doubt I would be playing at all right now.

"WhatCobblers;c-18207719" wrote:
I don't want to stop playing but unfortunately gameplay (mainly live mode) is becoming a frustration for the following reasons:

- It takes ages to get my Sims to do what I want them to do because an action to check their phone or talk to the nearest random townie takes over first.

- The constant obsessive phone checking whilst walking along. What's the point of having amusing walk styles if they are forever going to be interrupted by phone use?

- I can't take my Sims to a community lot without being bombarded by floods of NPC townies (am sure the numbers have increased recently). They always interrupt my sims' conversations, butt in when two of my Sims are trying to spend some quality time together (no it's not okay for you to sit here. My Sims are having a PRIVATE chat!) stand in the way when I'm trying to do a photoshoot and hog all the equipment on a lot so that it takes several attempts for my Sims to actually be able to use a community item.
I wouldn't want no townies at all, but would like to choose when my Sims interact with them and not have every conversation be a free for all.

- Mermaid eyes and scales no longer link to human/land form in my game's CAS, despite having link 'All' checked. I like to make colourful, fantastical looking land walkers but can't currently create any new mermaids the way I used to because of this bug.

- There are options to make outgoing, confident and sports clique (Bro) Sims in CAS but still no Shy trait.* 'Loner,' to me, feels more like introversion than shyness and I am disappointed that after all this time there is still no differentiation between the two in the game.

- The random meanness bug is still not fixed in my game, and it is causing my Sims to gain hurt sentiments nearly every time.

- My Sims relationships with other Sims I have created deteriorates rapidly over a couple of days. Sometimes they forget each other completely. Yet when my sims meet a townie or premade once, they seem to remember them forever and have developed the inexplicable ability to become permanent friends despite never having socialised with said NPC or premade since. Sometimes this has happened with Sims they have never even met. Those are not the relationships I'm interested in developing! This is especially annoying when playing my loner sims as it jars with the personality and stories I'm trying to imagine for them.

- Despite having neighbourhood stories turned off, I am still getting phonecalls from my Sims about relationship advice (and again, my own Sims phone up about people they've never even met or only met once). I am NOT INTERESTED in the relationship drama of the whole neighbourhood! I just want to do my own thing with my own Sims.

- It's not that I don't want any contact with premade or townie Sims but I would like to be able to choose when, where and how much my sims interact with them. The social side of gameplay does seem to have gone a bit overboard. My Sims gain and lose sentiments faster than I can keep up with.
With all of the above, I do feel a little llike I'm having a 'real life' extrovert dating relationship story forced on my gameplay against my will. But that is not how I want to play.

- And finally... the Mischief interaction has been a wasted opportunity. Instead of creative visual pranks, most of the options seem to be an extension of the Mean interaction, some have the same animation as many other speaking interactions and some really should be in Mean because they border on bullying (manipulating people's confidence is not a fun prank to do and shouldn't be classified as such). The Sabotage interaction was especially disappointing. I wanted my Sim to be a master prank puller, not a gaslighter.

* I don't own all the packs so if there is a shyness trait available in one then ignore that particular comment.

I agree that whoever ca.e up with the Mischief options didn't seem to get what harmless mischief is supposed to be. What happened to whoopee cushions and fake flies in your beverage sorts of pranks?

Telling someone "fake terrible news" isn't funny or harmless.

I have to agree with you, the mischief is not what I was hoping for either, and much of it does just seem mean.

I think after the recent fixes the game runs pretty well.

Agreed.

My game is completely unplayable without Mods after Patch 1.93

My Sims:
-Will not stop being mean to each other, to the point that they completely destroy 100% friends/best friends and even lover relationships, in as little as 2 Sim days. (tested without Mods) - I HAD to add BossLadyTV's Mod to fix this, or not play. Literally left with no choice. (Find it on Curseforge) --> Search her name.
-Need bar colors are wrong, and do not change with increase. (tested without mods)
-Teen school performance does not increase, no matter how much homework, exams, notes I take, and classes I attend.

I have the High School Years Expansion pack, so to not be able to increase their grade performance, is really defeating the purpose of the pack altogether. Thank the Mod Community for MCC and UI cheats, so that I can micromanage my game until I do not need to anymore.

BUT. This is also happening for Console players, and they DO NOT have these options. :(

"ignominiusrex;c-18207744" wrote:

"WhatCobblers;c-18207719" wrote:
I don't want to stop playing but unfortunately gameplay (mainly live mode) is becoming a frustration for the following reasons:

- It takes ages to get my Sims to do what I want them to do because an action to check their phone or talk to the nearest random townie takes over first.

- The constant obsessive phone checking whilst walking along. What's the point of having amusing walk styles if they are forever going to be interrupted by phone use?

- I can't take my Sims to a community lot without being bombarded by floods of NPC townies (am sure the numbers have increased recently). They always interrupt my sims' conversations, butt in when two of my Sims are trying to spend some quality time together (no it's not okay for you to sit here. My Sims are having a PRIVATE chat!) stand in the way when I'm trying to do a photoshoot and hog all the equipment on a lot so that it takes several attempts for my Sims to actually be able to use a community item.
I wouldn't want no townies at all, but would like to choose when my Sims interact with them and not have every conversation be a free for all.

- Mermaid eyes and scales no longer link to human/land form in my game's CAS, despite having link 'All' checked. I like to make colourful, fantastical looking land walkers but can't currently create any new mermaids the way I used to because of this bug.

- There are options to make outgoing, confident and sports clique (Bro) Sims in CAS but still no Shy trait.* 'Loner,' to me, feels more like introversion than shyness and I am disappointed that after all this time there is still no differentiation between the two in the game.

- The random meanness bug is still not fixed in my game, and it is causing my Sims to gain hurt sentiments nearly every time.

- My Sims relationships with other Sims I have created deteriorates rapidly over a couple of days. Sometimes they forget each other completely. Yet when my sims meet a townie or premade once, they seem to remember them forever and have developed the inexplicable ability to become permanent friends despite never having socialised with said NPC or premade since. Sometimes this has happened with Sims they have never even met. Those are not the relationships I'm interested in developing! This is especially annoying when playing my loner sims as it jars with the personality and stories I'm trying to imagine for them.

- Despite having neighbourhood stories turned off, I am still getting phonecalls from my Sims about relationship advice (and again, my own Sims phone up about people they've never even met or only met once). I am NOT INTERESTED in the relationship drama of the whole neighbourhood! I just want to do my own thing with my own Sims.

- It's not that I don't want any contact with premade or townie Sims but I would like to be able to choose when, where and how much my sims interact with them. The social side of gameplay does seem to have gone a bit overboard. My Sims gain and lose sentiments faster than I can keep up with.
With all of the above, I do feel a little llike I'm having a 'real life' extrovert dating relationship story forced on my gameplay against my will. But that is not how I want to play.

- And finally... the Mischief interaction has been a wasted opportunity. Instead of creative visual pranks, most of the options seem to be an extension of the Mean interaction, some have the same animation as many other speaking interactions and some really should be in Mean because they border on bullying (manipulating people's confidence is not a fun prank to do and shouldn't be classified as such). The Sabotage interaction was especially disappointing. I wanted my Sim to be a master prank puller, not a gaslighter.

* I don't own all the packs so if there is a shyness trait available in one then ignore that particular comment.

I agree that whoever ca.e up with the Mischief options didn't seem to get what harmless mischief is supposed to be. What happened to whoopee cushions and fake flies in your beverage sorts of pranks?

Telling someone "fake terrible news" isn't funny or harmless.

I have to agree with you, the mischief is not what I was hoping for either, and much of it does just seem mean.

Fake bugs and whoopie cushions would have been great! They could have had different ones available to buy with different sound effects (animals, car horn, etc).

Yes it was a shame because the concept of a chief of mischief sounds really fun, but , like with a lot of the interactions there are too many that are just talking, when there could have been more entertaining visuals.

Yeah, the random meanness is weird. It makes sense for the Mean and maybe Evil traits, but not for Hot-Headed or Erratic. It also shouldn't happen just because a Sim is Angry. If they're Angry, they might react negatively to certain interactions, like Mischief and Romantic, or even Friendly or Funny on rare occasions, but suddenly insulting or yelling at a fellow Sim just because they're in a bad mood doesn't make sense. I might be a bit short with someone when I'm mad about something, but I'm not going to just suddenly chew them out for no reason. Most of us have a bit more self-restraint than that.