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"keekee53;c-17151648" wrote:

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"jooxis;c-17150897" wrote:
I'm having trouble getting into it. I feel like I've already done everything that the pack offers in my first day of gameplay.
I feel this is easily the weakest expansion pack they have released so far in terms of gameplay and it is even weaker than most of the game packs in this regard which is alarming. And that makes me quite sad and not very hopeful about Realm of Magic.

I think it depends on what you consider "gameplay". I have been playing every day since this pack dropped and I still have tons of things to do.
Plus I just genuinely love what I have already done.
Spending every day snorkeling, free diving for seashells and doing yoga in the evenings... (who me? Jealous of my Sims? Nah...)

huh It is very clear fun is subjective because watching my sim swim around a buoy, watching bubble as they dive and then watching them finish the evening with yoga...I need more going on in my game for entertainment.

Apparently so.
I loathe interactive careers ( working from home I can deal with, but doctor or scientist? It's soooooo frustrating after awhile).

I also enjoy them doing similar tasks as snorkeling. Which is all the tasks.
I still don't get why snorkeling is wrongfully percieved as a "rabbit hole" when you have the exact same interactivity there as literally all other tasks. You can describe every action in the game like you describe snorkeling: workout? Check. Jogging? Check. Cooking? Check. Swimming in a pool? Check. Karaoke? Check.

Not sure if you are referring to me with the wrongfully perceived as a rabbit hole comment because I felt I was clear. Snorkling =swimming around the bouy Diving=rabbithole with bubbles.

You are right about the many actions are monotonous in game such as the ones you listed. However, I look at cooking as satisfying a Sim need. It is just like having my sim use the toilet or shower. It is not a real "feature" of some expansion pack. At the very least I can still choose my Sim's meal making it more interactive. Swimming is boring too and I am still waiting for some type of gameplay to be added there but it is seasonal in most neighborhoods. Karaoke I don't use but at least you can sing with other sims to make it more social and choose a song. With snorkling, I can't say hey look at the shell over there and grab it because we can't even go under the water. Sims 3 showed what diving should be...interactive. I could click and grab fish, open treasure boxes, possible run into a mermaid or shark, ran out of oxygen after a certain amount of time and had to head up, etc I was just genuinely surprised you would consider watching a sim swim around a buoy or watching dive bubbles as gameplay.

It really sounds to me like you don't want to play Sims, you want to play Subnautica or something else similar. This IS the Sims gameplay. It has always BEEN the Sims gameplay. As for SIms 3 diving... that was the odd thing out in the entire game. It's like Jogging being interactive or whatever.

There is nothing different, at all, gameplay wise between the diving interaction and the weight lifting interaction or the train your dog fetch interaction. So again I am not sure why you expected that to be different.

There is a difference between interactive gameplay and skill based gameplay

On the offchance of derailing this thread even more, I agree that there is a difference between doing things, in a way, and sort of watching things happen. As much as I like TS4, I still think it should move towards that interactive gameplay more whenever it has the chance to - and I think JA vs WA is a particularly good example of this. In 3 WA I actually have to push things around, stand on things, fail. It feels very interactive. In 4 JA, I kind of watch them study some things, then try pulling some stuff and tada, it works or it doesn't. But yes, that process is undeniably far less interactive. So even if I personally don't mind that diving isn't an active thing - this would've been one of those chances they definitely should have used. Just like I kind of wish that the tombs in JA were a tat more like those in WA. Simply because it was introduced in the most recent prior iteration and it makes sense for people to expect these things to come back. Just my 2 cents.