I found two unique references to bellhops in Snowy Escape build/buy text. The first, the Scandalous Snow Dreams Nightstand, can be found in the standard buy catalog and references a bellhop. The second, found either via a Simi Vending machine or in buy debug is a bellhop Simi. Screenshots of both can be found at the bottom of this post. In the past, I've found most speculative text and hints to be quite open to interpretation. But in this case, a bellhop has a very clear definition and a very clear association with hospitality. The fact that they are referenced twice in Snowy Escape does not seem like a coincidence to me. Of course, it could be, but given past surveys, the new ability to vacation to any world, and general player demand, I think these references paint a clear picture. I certainly do think hotels/resorts are coming in 2021, how they arrive is the real topic for speculation in my opinion. I'd imagine they could arrive in game pack in early February, alongside a romance overhaul (another frequent player request), just in time for Valentines day. This could give the team a fun chance to include items like the Vibrating Heart-Shaped bed that would fit well with both themes. Strangerville arrived on Feb 26, 2019. If they were to keep a somewhat similar release schedule, moving the date up by just two weeks, such a pack could release on Feb 11, three days before Valentines day. At any rate, I would love for hotels/resorts to arrive in a GP without a new world. I'd much rather have a thorough and exciting hotel experience that caters to those wishing to run a hotel and those wishing to stay at one, instead of a so-so hotel experience that comes with a micro-world too small to create any real sense of community. What are your thoughts on all of this?https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50614683642_1aa7913416_c.jpg11-17-20_2-26-05 PM by Sappy Sifaka, on Flickrhttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50613830518_737c62a08f_c.jpg11-17-20_2-26-10 PM by Sappy Sifaka, on Flickr

Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.

It's very interesting for sure. I do hope your right and I also wouldn't mind if they skipped out on a new world. I would appreciate if they added some ready to go hotel builds to our library though.

"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size. The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere.

"Sheepiling;c-17727424" wrote:"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size. The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere. Very much agree, especially regarding Realm of Magic. I would have much rather had a few more gameplay objects/dynamics in place of Glimmerbrook/the Magic Realm. I'd even go a step further and say that I would have even preferred more general build/buy and CAS stuff instead of the world. I get that the vibe of the pack was heavily inspired by contemporary witches (i.e. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) but they didn't even give us a classic witch/wizard hat. Still out here stuck with that goofy one with the spider hanging off the back from Spooky Stuff, unless you use CC. My hope is that a hotel pack without a world will be able to properly impress without any caveats or short cuts.

I found 1-2 texts about safety, robbery and romantic or something.. arent thiefs still missing? The new toddler outfit with the gymbag got farm animals on them.. Farming hint?

Two Clear Hints at Hotels Found in Snowy Escape

EliasVersace
4 years ago
Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.
Peapod79
4 years ago
It's very interesting for sure. I do hope your right and I also wouldn't mind if they skipped out on a new world. I would appreciate if they added some ready to go hotel builds to our library though.
Sheepiling
Seasoned Novice
4 years ago
"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:
Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.

The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere.
SappySifaka
4 years ago
"Sheepiling;c-17727424" wrote:
"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:
Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.

The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere.

Very much agree, especially regarding Realm of Magic. I would have much rather had a few more gameplay objects/dynamics in place of Glimmerbrook/the Magic Realm. I'd even go a step further and say that I would have even preferred more general build/buy and CAS stuff instead of the world. I get that the vibe of the pack was heavily inspired by contemporary witches (i.e. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) but they didn't even give us a classic witch/wizard hat. Still out here stuck with that goofy one with the spider hanging off the back from Spooky Stuff, unless you use CC.

My hope is that a hotel pack without a world will be able to properly impress without any caveats or short cuts.
xinAimee
4 years ago
I found 1-2 texts about safety, robbery and romantic or something.. arent thiefs still missing?

The new toddler outfit with the gymbag got farm animals on them.. Farming hint?
EliasVersace
4 years ago
"SappySifaka;c-17727437" wrote:
"Sheepiling;c-17727424" wrote:
"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:
Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.

The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere.

My hope is that a hotel pack without a world will be able to properly impress without any caveats or short cuts.

Me too. If the pack came with a well thought-through hotel/resort system it would add so much to the game. Also that one 50x50 lot in Yukimatsu just screams 'build snow resort here' to me.
SappySifaka
4 years ago
"Yuna;c-17727476" wrote:
I found 1-2 texts about safety, robbery and romantic or something.. arent thiefs still missing?

The new toddler outfit with the gymbag got farm animals on them.. Farming hint?

Funny you mentioned that, I also tallied roughly five references to crime/theft and roughly seven to romance. There were also two very specific references to medieval themes in other simi figures, but they were slightly less compelling. I was going to make a separate post for these later with all of the respective objects listed. At any rate, I do suspect that hotels, romance, and theft will return in some form in 2021.
Pamtastic72
4 years ago
I can see how a resort pack could easily be based off of dine out.

Instead of a host/hostess stand a check in desk to request a room.
Doors could function like tables in that when they’re on the hotel lot type you could click on them to request a specific room, request room service, request maid service etc.
Bars could still function in hotels just as they do in restaurants.
Restaurants could still function inside hotels.
They could add machines that vend snacks & “off brand” soda, & ice.
The retail system could maybe work to have gift shops.

More or less it seems like all systems are in place to make fully functional hotels and resorts without having to develop a ton of new technology or animations. I really do hope we get them soon, because while renting a house on vacation is fine, staying in a hotel is a totally different experience that I would love to add for my sims without being dependent on a mod.
SheriSim
New Vanguard
4 years ago
"SappySifaka;c-17727437" wrote:
"Sheepiling;c-17727424" wrote:
"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:
Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.

The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere.

Very much agree, especially regarding Realm of Magic. I would have much rather had a few more gameplay objects/dynamics in place of Glimmerbrook/the Magic Realm. I'd even go a step further and say that I would have even preferred more general build/buy and CAS stuff instead of the world. I get that the vibe of the pack was heavily inspired by contemporary witches (i.e. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) but they didn't even give us a classic witch/wizard hat. Still out here stuck with that goofy one with the spider hanging off the back from Spooky Stuff, unless you use CC.

My hope is that a hotel pack without a world will be able to properly impress without any caveats or short cuts.

I agree about the hat! We need a real witches hat...... wish they would give us one, one of these Halloween’s..... but I love Glimmerbrook! My disappointment was in the types of spells we got, and the witches realm and how easy it is to achieve the the spells ....... i have few people show up to the witches realm ... and when they do they are wearing turbans, fine in San Myshuno, but the witches realm??..... I’d rather see people in the realm wearing witch and warlock robes....
But, I would love to see a world with hotels....and I hope, like rentals we will be able to make our own hotels in whichever world we want them in. With however many stories, hotels being a lot type.
justme22
4 years ago
"Camkat;c-17727401" wrote:
It's very interesting for sure. I do hope your right and I also wouldn't mind if they skipped out on a new world. I would appreciate if they added some ready to go hotel builds to our library though.

Something similar to Dine Out, where there were prebuilt restaurants and preset menus; it also had no new world. Now that we can have rentals in any world, it would make a hotel (or maybe even something smaller, like an inn or B&B, more feasible.