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When you look at occults, the game is pretty well equipped to support Alien, Vampire, and Spellcaster families. For Spellcasters, you even have a place for them to call their own and bloodlines. Aliens can result in weird genetics, and Vampires are, well Vampires.

Island Living offers the hidden Sulani Mana Trait and Merfolk. Merfolk have a bunch of unique abilities, and I consider Seasons a must because it adds the weather changing abilities. However, merfolk don't have a place to call their own, there are no special bloodlines, and the trait doesn't even show up until they are teens.

I've seen people talk about how the dive spots could be part of something like a secret lot or how it could be a place for merfolk. But, the idea that I think is different from other threads, and I think worth mentioning is: Merfolk really would benefit from underwater lots. I'm talking about underwater lots that could be used as residential lots or serve similar functions to other venues but underwater.

The idea is pretty simple, but it's not like people haven't done similar things in real life. Of course, those examples aren't very common, so I doubt many have seen anything.

I think it would give merfolk that extra thing they need if the game play could actually support having a merfolk family on an underwater lot. Of course, this would mean creating underwater friendly stuff for the home, but I think it's doable. I think they could have given Toddlers and Children a merform. Here are a couple screenshots of the merform equipped to children and a toddler. It's in the code. They just didn't design a smaller, child-size version of the adult tails or include the swim style.

Kylen and Rylen: Merboys with their merform equipped using cheats. The next life stage (Teen) will include a merform with a tail.

b4d7cbd0-fc61-11ea-8bae-020d4250b5ee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Ember: A mergirl toddler with her merform equipped. This also came with a change in hairstyle and clothes.

d3a95500-fc4e-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda by Metior Ice, on Flickr

The children and toddlers could have a merform that allows them to live underwater and support everything the sims has to offer but underwater with unique underwater items to interact with. Of course, only the merfolk sims could live underwater without some kind of underwater life support. Something like underwater life support could be included for non-mersims.

As things are, merfolk have limitations on what they can do in their merform, but there's more they can do then it appears. Testing the limits of what merfolk can do in their merform, I found that they can almost have a functional home while hardly taking their human form.

Without Cheats

With certain mirrors, they can do almost everything except a select few things that came with later packs. It seems merfolk were coded to do a lot of stuff, but this didn't get updated with introduction of new packs.

4dc0d730-ee41-11ea-b220-066dca9f8100 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

He can also practice pick-up lines while flirty. I assume he can also perform the other emotional interactions as well as psych himself up.

0aa5ace0-ee47-11ea-9f49-0a8426b3333e by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Things they can't do with a mirror (Some things make sense while others don't or could have an alternative option for mers):

They can't practice acting or practice lines. Apparently, functioning legs are required to be an actor or actress:

4ab58440-ee47-11ea-a2c3-0609d188dc84 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

I made him flirty by trying on outfits in his merform, but he can't use the freshen up option.

582bb6d0-ee47-11ea-8bae-020d4250b5ee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

I can build charisma by practicing a speech, but I guess they forgot to update things with the University Pack. Merfolk can't practice debate...

41521ad0-ee47-11ea-be8e-0630c6c0f8b4 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Naturally, he doesn't have legs in this form, so I wouldn't expect him to practice dancing. Instead of a quirky message they give about ladders, he just won't know where to go to perform the action.

He can view and talk to fish without leaving the water.

931b4220-ee46-11ea-9e99-06185eb08d42 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Merfolk can watch wall mounted tvs and listen to music from a nearby music source or headphones.

e69cd260-ee46-11ea-9fe9-029c91a3edee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

33a0f790-ee46-11ea-b436-02b1b53df25a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

They can't view artwork or posters.

bd3c5d40-ee47-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

With Sulani Mana, Merfolk can summon lava bombs

bfae4e00-ebde-11ea-b220-066dca9f8100 (2) by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Oh, and these fireballs can be summoned by children, but they don't have their merfolk abilities until they are teens...

a18e7ac0-dc5d-11ea-8bae-020d4250b5ee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Thanks to their ability to call thunderstorms anywhere they go and the Storm Chaser Trait, Bringing the Lightning is a very easy ability to acquire at any time anywhere.

If you get two merfolk together, you can almost keep a thunderstorm going perpetually and further increase your chances of getting struck twice. One of my mers were struck three times while trying this.

8c992ae0-ebce-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50291287498_127f991da2_k.jpg64cda310-ebce-11ea-b220-066dca9f8100 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

4abdf670-ebdb-11ea-be8e-0630c6c0f8b4 (2) by Metior Ice, on Flickr

a1575660-ebcd-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda by Metior Ice, on Flickr

59e5c710-ebcf-11ea-b436-02b1b53df25a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

630570c0-ebcf-11ea-9e99-06185eb08d42 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

With Cheats

If you use cheats, you can equip the merform while the sims is sitting. Like this, a mer can be at the waters edge performing various things fully submerged in the water. Things like hunger can be satisfied without changing back. Hand held electronics can be used (This includes the electronic drawing pad).

1c743de0-eba6-11ea-9e99-06185eb08d42 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

b2fe1a70-eba5-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

It wouldn't be hard to use this as starting point for merfolk beds and furniture.

f5369440-eb4f-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda by Metior Ice, on Flickr

029e9e20-ebe1-11ea-9f49-0a8426b3333e by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Also, merfolk might have interactions that seem to only be lethal to players and not townies, but their abilities can wreck a lot. If I kept going, who know how many fires would break out and destroyed object would need to get replaced.

29b55910-ebda-11ea-a2c3-0609d188dc84 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

Merfolk didn't get as many perks as other occults. The way they developed them, I kinda have to use features from other packs. However, I really, truly believe that the one things they could do to make merfolk more popular in the sims is to include underwater lots that can be used as merfolk family homes for occult players or various types of diving venues for non-occult players. I'm sure a few google searches would bring up plenty of possibilities for underwater non-occult playstyles. I am upset that a previous version had underwater lots and the second one didn't include it. The technology the sims 4 is run on must be better than what the sims 3 runs on even if it isn't the best. I don't know why features from the Sims 3 would be excluded. I'm still very new to the Sims, but it's the merfolk that sold the games for me. They've made all their sales because of them, so I'm a bit disappointed that they haven't at least offered a free update for the people that want to play as merfolk.

I'm still exploring what I can do, and even though I play on the Console (Playstation 4), I continue to push the limits of what I can do with merfolk.

This is my current build. It still has elements from my experimentation, but I hope to find the perfect combination of traits and building style to create a home for merfolk where they don't have to change into a human form. For now, it's the only thing I can do until something is done about the lack of underwater lots. I think they have tons of missed opportunities with merfolk.

My Underwater Build (Experimental)

The Upper Chambers (The main part of the house. Everything in this build includes basements and basement pools).

b69298f0-f0e1-11ea-9fe9-029c91a3edee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

The Middle Chambers (Has a nice effect with the bubbles and surrounding underwater elements.)

58a7c800-f0e1-11ea-a2c3-0609d188dc84 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

The Lower Chambers (Essentially a Lava Tube that would wear down sims and potentially drown them if they don't have high fitness or are merfolk. Certain areas are too narrow for water vehicles. Makes for good anti-klepto and sharing is caring measures.)

f60482a0-f0e1-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

In some ways, a merperson has more ways to make the most of a tiny living boost too. Considering that a pool can facilitate most of the living space needs, its possible to create a build with huge benefits that only merfolk can take advantage of because they can sleep in the water and perform so many interactions while in the water. There's still room for improvement.","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-09-22T06:28:48.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Idea","text":"Idea","time":"2023-03-29T15:45:50.000-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":7,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:249077_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":3730},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Now, I've almost spent all my time playing as merfolk in Island Living. Merfolk sims are like other sims, but they have that half fish part to them and special abilities. While Island Living missed a lot of opportunities, I think it failed the most with what could be done with merfolk.

When you look at occults, the game is pretty well equipped to support Alien, Vampire, and Spellcaster families. For Spellcasters, you even have a place for them to call their own and bloodlines. Aliens can result in weird genetics, and Vampires are, well Vampires.

Island Living offers the hidden Sulani Mana Trait and Merfolk. Merfolk have a bunch of unique abilities, and I consider Seasons a must because it adds the weather changing abilities. However, merfolk don't have a place to call their own, there are no special bloodlines, and the trait doesn't even show up until they are teens.

I've seen people talk about how the dive spots could be part of something like a secret lot or how it could be a place for merfolk. But, the idea that I think is different from other threads, and I think worth mentioning is: Merfolk really would benefit from underwater lots. I'm talking about underwater lots that could be used as residential lots or serve similar functions to other venues but underwater.

The idea is pretty simple, but it's not like people haven't done similar things in real life. Of course, those examples aren't very common, so I doubt many have seen anything.

I think it would give merfolk that extra thing they need if the game play could actually support having a merfolk family on an underwater lot. Of course, this would mean creating underwater friendly stuff for the home, but I think it's doable. I think they could have given Toddlers and Children a merform. Here are a couple screenshots of the merform equipped to children and a toddler. It's in the code. They just didn't design a smaller, child-size version of the adult tails or include the swim style.

Kylen and Rylen: Merboys with their merform equipped using cheats. The next life stage (Teen) will include a merform with a tail.

Spoiler
b4d7cbd0-fc61-11ea-8bae-020d4250b5ee by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Ember: A mergirl toddler with her merform equipped. This also came with a change in hairstyle and clothes.

Spoiler
d3a95500-fc4e-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda by Metior Ice, on Flickr


The children and toddlers could have a merform that allows them to live underwater and support everything the sims has to offer but underwater with unique underwater items to interact with. Of course, only the merfolk sims could live underwater without some kind of underwater life support. Something like underwater life support could be included for non-mersims.

As things are, merfolk have limitations on what they can do in their merform, but there's more they can do then it appears. Testing the limits of what merfolk can do in their merform, I found that they can almost have a functional home while hardly taking their human form.

Without Cheats

With certain mirrors, they can do almost everything except a select few things that came with later packs. It seems merfolk were coded to do a lot of stuff, but this didn't get updated with introduction of new packs.

Spoiler
4dc0d730-ee41-11ea-b220-066dca9f8100 by Metior Ice, on Flickr


He can also practice pick-up lines while flirty. I assume he can also perform the other emotional interactions as well as psych himself up.

Spoiler
0aa5ace0-ee47-11ea-9f49-0a8426b3333e by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Things they can't do with a mirror (Some things make sense while others don't or could have an alternative option for mers):

They can't practice acting or practice lines. Apparently, functioning legs are required to be an actor or actress:

Spoiler
4ab58440-ee47-11ea-a2c3-0609d188dc84 by Metior Ice, on Flickr


I made him flirty by trying on outfits in his merform, but he can't use the freshen up option.

Spoiler
582bb6d0-ee47-11ea-8bae-020d4250b5ee by Metior Ice, on Flickr


I can build charisma by practicing a speech, but I guess they forgot to update things with the University Pack. Merfolk can't practice debate...

Spoiler
41521ad0-ee47-11ea-be8e-0630c6c0f8b4 by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Naturally, he doesn't have legs in this form, so I wouldn't expect him to practice dancing. Instead of a quirky message they give about ladders, he just won't know where to go to perform the action.

He can view and talk to fish without leaving the water.

Spoiler
931b4220-ee46-11ea-9e99-06185eb08d42 by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Merfolk can watch wall mounted tvs and listen to music from a nearby music source or headphones.

Spoiler
e69cd260-ee46-11ea-9fe9-029c91a3edee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

33a0f790-ee46-11ea-b436-02b1b53df25a by Metior Ice, on Flickr


They can't view artwork or posters.

Spoiler
bd3c5d40-ee47-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr


With Sulani Mana, Merfolk can summon lava bombs

Spoiler
bfae4e00-ebde-11ea-b220-066dca9f8100 (2) by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Oh, and these fireballs can be summoned by children, but they don't have their merfolk abilities until they are teens...

Spoiler
a18e7ac0-dc5d-11ea-8bae-020d4250b5ee by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Thanks to their ability to call thunderstorms anywhere they go and the Storm Chaser Trait, Bringing the Lightning is a very easy ability to acquire at any time anywhere.

If you get two merfolk together, you can almost keep a thunderstorm going perpetually and further increase your chances of getting struck twice. One of my mers were struck three times while trying this.

Spoiler
8c992ae0-ebce-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50291287498_127f991da2_k.jpg64cda310-ebce-11ea-b220-066dca9f8100 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

4abdf670-ebdb-11ea-be8e-0630c6c0f8b4 (2) by Metior Ice, on Flickr

a1575660-ebcd-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda by Metior Ice, on Flickr

59e5c710-ebcf-11ea-b436-02b1b53df25a by Metior Ice, on Flickr

630570c0-ebcf-11ea-9e99-06185eb08d42 by Metior Ice, on Flickr


With Cheats

If you use cheats, you can equip the merform while the sims is sitting. Like this, a mer can be at the waters edge performing various things fully submerged in the water. Things like hunger can be satisfied without changing back. Hand held electronics can be used (This includes the electronic drawing pad).

Spoiler
1c743de0-eba6-11ea-9e99-06185eb08d42 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

b2fe1a70-eba5-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr


It wouldn't be hard to use this as starting point for merfolk beds and furniture.

Spoiler
f5369440-eb4f-11ea-9fcb-0676b3257eda by Metior Ice, on Flickr

029e9e20-ebe1-11ea-9f49-0a8426b3333e by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Also, merfolk might have interactions that seem to only be lethal to players and not townies, but their abilities can wreck a lot. If I kept going, who know how many fires would break out and destroyed object would need to get replaced.

Spoiler
29b55910-ebda-11ea-a2c3-0609d188dc84 by Metior Ice, on Flickr


Merfolk didn't get as many perks as other occults. The way they developed them, I kinda have to use features from other packs. However, I really, truly believe that the one things they could do to make merfolk more popular in the sims is to include underwater lots that can be used as merfolk family homes for occult players or various types of diving venues for non-occult players. I'm sure a few google searches would bring up plenty of possibilities for underwater non-occult playstyles. I am upset that a previous version had underwater lots and the second one didn't include it. The technology the sims 4 is run on must be better than what the sims 3 runs on even if it isn't the best. I don't know why features from the Sims 3 would be excluded. I'm still very new to the Sims, but it's the merfolk that sold the games for me. They've made all their sales because of them, so I'm a bit disappointed that they haven't at least offered a free update for the people that want to play as merfolk.

I'm still exploring what I can do, and even though I play on the Console (Playstation 4), I continue to push the limits of what I can do with merfolk.

This is my current build. It still has elements from my experimentation, but I hope to find the perfect combination of traits and building style to create a home for merfolk where they don't have to change into a human form. For now, it's the only thing I can do until something is done about the lack of underwater lots. I think they have tons of missed opportunities with merfolk.

My Underwater Build (Experimental)

Spoiler
The Upper Chambers (The main part of the house. Everything in this build includes basements and basement pools).

b69298f0-f0e1-11ea-9fe9-029c91a3edee by Metior Ice, on Flickr

The Middle Chambers (Has a nice effect with the bubbles and surrounding underwater elements.)

58a7c800-f0e1-11ea-a2c3-0609d188dc84 by Metior Ice, on Flickr

The Lower Chambers (Essentially a Lava Tube that would wear down sims and potentially drown them if they don't have high fitness or are merfolk. Certain areas are too narrow for water vehicles. Makes for good anti-klepto and sharing is caring measures.)

f60482a0-f0e1-11ea-9b3b-024578d80d6a by Metior Ice, on Flickr


In some ways, a merperson has more ways to make the most of a tiny living boost too. Considering that a pool can facilitate most of the living space needs, its possible to create a build with huge benefits that only merfolk can take advantage of because they can sleep in the water and perform so many interactions while in the water. There's still room for improvement."},"Conversation:conversation:249077":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:249077","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:249077"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2021-08-29T00:58:37.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2021-08-29T00:58:37.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":83,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:249077":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:249077","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:249077_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:249077_1","lastEditTime":"2020-09-22T06:28:48.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:249086":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:249086","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:249077"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:23606"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":249086,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Underwater Lots in Island Living","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:249086"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:249077"},"body":"@TS1299 I did find it interesting that the interactions weren’t updated for merfolk.

@GalacticGal The only unique thing about these interactions is that merfolk gain fitness by swimming and satisfy their hydration need in the water. They can’t drown in a pool and can be in their merform while in the water. However, any sim swimming in the pool regardless of their occult status can watch the tv, listen to music, and etc.

Imagine sims swimming in a pool and still having movie night. Imagine a tropical pool island bar with access to the bar on one side, island music playing over the water while a sim lounges in a floating chair.

So, updating the interactions in the water need not be limited to merfolk. Merfolk just happen to have an aquatic nature that would benefit more from an update or patch.

....

And for people who enjoy playing with merfolk families and actually having every member of the family take a merform in the water. Children don’t need to have magical abilities, but allowing them to have their fins wouldn’t hurt. They also took care to limit certain merfolk abilities with children. The Charmer’s Lullaby that makes sims flirty can’t be used on kids, so I know they were thinking about the children during development. Most of the merform is visual and shouldn’t be that difficult to include.

Because I play on the Playstation 4, Mods and CC aren’t even an option, but I know that mods for this exist. These mods might’ve swayed me to use mods and cc if they were possible to use on the Console.
","body@stringLength":"1596","rawBody":"@TS1299 I did find it interesting that the interactions weren’t updated for merfolk.

@GalacticGal The only unique thing about these interactions is that merfolk gain fitness by swimming and satisfy their hydration need in the water. They can’t drown in a pool and can be in their merform while in the water. However, any sim swimming in the pool regardless of their occult status can watch the tv, listen to music, and etc.

Imagine sims swimming in a pool and still having movie night. Imagine a tropical pool island bar with access to the bar on one side, island music playing over the water while a sim lounges in a floating chair.

So, updating the interactions in the water need not be limited to merfolk. Merfolk just happen to have an aquatic nature that would benefit more from an update or patch.

....

And for people who enjoy playing with merfolk families and actually having every member of the family take a merform in the water. Children don’t need to have magical abilities, but allowing them to have their fins wouldn’t hurt. They also took care to limit certain merfolk abilities with children. The Charmer’s Lullaby that makes sims flirty can’t be used on kids, so I know they were thinking about the children during development. Most of the merform is visual and shouldn’t be that difficult to include.

Because I play on the Playstation 4, Mods and CC aren’t even an option, but I know that mods for this exist. These mods might’ve swayed me to use mods and cc if they were possible to use on the Console.
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