I was really excited about continuing my new Wyrd Girls story. I was enjoying the current arc and was looking forward to seeing what kind of trouble I could get Miranda, Cassie and Gwen into. Now, I am so angry about today's "patch" that I don't want to touch The SIMS 4. I've seen a lot of angry and frustrated posts from people, about how The SIMS 4 is completely glitched, how EA doesn't respect the community, how they rely on modders to solve their problems for them, etc. I admit, I wasn't bothered about it before. I was enjoying my game and if it was a little glitchy at times, at least I was having fun. Suddenly, today I'm seeing it with different eyes. The failure to even address problems with Wants and Fears is somehow my line in the sand. I'm really not sure why. I don't even mean a failure to solve the problem. Simply to not even acknowledge it... to not simply say they're working on it but haven't fixed it yet. That, I find, to be disrespectful to the community. I'm sure most people will ignore this post. Some will absolutely reply defending EA and saying I'm wrong. Others will probably reply agreeing with me or wondering why it took so long for me to open my eyes. Well, I'm not here to debate the point. Truthfully, I'll probably play again. Eventually, I'll update Wyrd Girls again... but some of the joy will have gone out of it for me. Some of that love of the game died for me today. So I'm choosing to post, to stand up as publicly as I can, as a small contributor to these forums, and say - I am very angry and disappointed.Wyrd (fate) is all about choices after all. I choose not to be silent.

I agree with you. I was very hopeful that this annoyance would be addressed, because it feels like they just keep pushing out broken content without even addressing issues that have been ongoing.

@luciusstorm I understand your anger and frustration. My love for my sims themselves is what keeps me going, but I can totally understand why someone would get so upset that they walk away. I suppose I've become numb to this lack of addressing issues, it's been going on forever. Not just TS4, Isla Paradiso in TS3 was never fixed. Right now if I hopped in TS3 and went there I'd still be encountering the routing bugs. I wanted Wants and Fears fixed, but I wasn't even mildly surprised it wasn't. It doesn't mean I'm not mad about it, I just gave up expecting anything. I'm more angry at myself for jumping in blindly at every new update and pack in spite of the evidence. I was shy about MWS and waited before diving in. When Werewolves came off with very little in the way of major glitches I dropped my guard and now I have a game where a sim rolled a want that would destroy the story, destroy relationships, everything I've worked to build. I wanted this stupid system because I wanted to experience something that threw back to what so many think of as the glory days of the franchise that I never got to experience. I rushed in and excepted that disaster of an update and now that story I cherish may be in peril. Like I said before, I'm beyond being mad at EA and Maxis because I know I should exercise extreme caution. I chose new and shiny and I shoulder a lot of the blame for where things are with my game. Fool me once shame on them. Fool me repeatedly, shame on me.

I've never been one to complain about this game because I genuinely enjoy it, but I'm sorely disappointed too. I think it seems worse because there was so much positivity surrounding the Werewolves pack and then a quick drastic turnaround. I bought HSY at release and have been patiently waiting to play since then.At this point Sims 4 feels like an old dear friend who keeps letting me down.

well it is playable some bugs always take longer to fix than others we've had countless patches to show that it doesn't mean it wasn't addressed, but if they haven't found a specific cause it can be for the best not to keep saying that repeatedly. I mean yeah obviously you don't need to be told you can feel what you need to but keep in mind things aren't perfect in any game the devs are people too sometimes we're going to have to wait and be happy that they acknowledge bugs at all while getting to what they can. Not that I haven't been bugged about some things it's just you have to take a step back and take a breather sometimes because it could always be worse the sims has historically had some really nasty bugs and unplayability. Don't even get me started on some of things I still avoid because of bugs. Just keep making reports as needed.

@DaniRose2143, I said I wasn't going to debate people here... but I reserve the right to clarify:I didn't buy an expansion that is bugged or broken. If Wants and Fears had been an expansion, I would have chosen not to get it because it holds no interest for me at all. But it wasn't an expansion. I wasn't given a choice. It was forced on me as part of an automatic update. Now, I supposed to be able to turn it off, that way I still would have a choice. But I can't turn it off, not reliably. So, this feature that I didn't ask for, didn't want, didn't chose is being forced on me. By not fixing that, EA is saying that they are OK with taking away my choices. Now, that seems to me to run counter to their stated ethic... and mine.

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cleo224
3 years ago
I agree with you. I was very hopeful that this annoyance would be addressed, because it feels like they just keep pushing out broken content without even addressing issues that have been ongoing.
DaniRose2143
Hero
3 years ago
@luciusstorm I understand your anger and frustration. My love for my sims themselves is what keeps me going, but I can totally understand why someone would get so upset that they walk away. I suppose I've become numb to this lack of addressing issues, it's been going on forever. Not just TS4, Isla Paradiso in TS3 was never fixed. Right now if I hopped in TS3 and went there I'd still be encountering the routing bugs. I wanted Wants and Fears fixed, but I wasn't even mildly surprised it wasn't. It doesn't mean I'm not mad about it, I just gave up expecting anything. I'm more angry at myself for jumping in blindly at every new update and pack in spite of the evidence.

I was shy about MWS and waited before diving in. When Werewolves came off with very little in the way of major glitches I dropped my guard and now I have a game where a sim rolled a want that would destroy the story, destroy relationships, everything I've worked to build. I wanted this stupid system because I wanted to experience something that threw back to what so many think of as the glory days of the franchise that I never got to experience. I rushed in and excepted that disaster of an update and now that story I cherish may be in peril.

Like I said before, I'm beyond being mad at EA and Maxis because I know I should exercise extreme caution. I chose new and shiny and I shoulder a lot of the blame for where things are with my game. Fool me once shame on them. Fool me repeatedly, shame on me.
Lavsm
Rising Spectator
3 years ago
I've never been one to complain about this game because I genuinely enjoy it, but I'm sorely disappointed too. I think it seems worse because there was so much positivity surrounding the Werewolves pack and then a quick drastic turnaround. I bought HSY at release and have been patiently waiting to play since then.

At this point Sims 4 feels like an old dear friend who keeps letting me down.
Reddestiny921
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
well it is playable some bugs always take longer to fix than others we've had countless patches to show that it doesn't mean it wasn't addressed, but if they haven't found a specific cause it can be for the best not to keep saying that repeatedly. I mean yeah obviously you don't need to be told you can feel what you need to but keep in mind things aren't perfect in any game the devs are people too sometimes we're going to have to wait and be happy that they acknowledge bugs at all while getting to what they can. Not that I haven't been bugged about some things it's just you have to take a step back and take a breather sometimes because it could always be worse the sims has historically had some really nasty bugs and unplayability. Don't even get me started on some of things I still avoid because of bugs. Just keep making reports as needed.
luciusstorm
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@DaniRose2143, I said I wasn't going to debate people here... but I reserve the right to clarify:

I didn't buy an expansion that is bugged or broken. If Wants and Fears had been an expansion, I would have chosen not to get it because it holds no interest for me at all. But it wasn't an expansion. I wasn't given a choice. It was forced on me as part of an automatic update. Now, I supposed to be able to turn it off, that way I still would have a choice. But I can't turn it off, not reliably. So, this feature that I didn't ask for, didn't want, didn't chose is being forced on me. By not fixing that, EA is saying that they are OK with taking away my choices.

Now, that seems to me to run counter to their stated ethic... and mine.
DaniRose2143
Hero
3 years ago
@luciusstorm I wasn't trying to debate either, just stating where I'm at and how I feel about the state my game is in.
talongirl6
3 years ago
I kind of feel the same way, even though I don't like to say I'm angry or anything. I really do appreciate the hard work that is put into the updates for The Sims 4.

However, I see how it can be a big problem to take away features like Whims that people like and replace it with another feature completely. I personally preferred Whims to the Wants and Fears system myself. Not to mention that I've seen a lot of people say that the game is unplayable with all the glitches from Wants and Fears. I'm hoping that they can be fixed soon, or that a system will be added which allows people to choose between Whims or Wants and Fears.

I actually haven't updated my game in a while because of the bugs and the new features. They make me a little nervous these days. I love playing my save files the way I like, and it has been a little disappointing when things would break and prevent me from doing what I like. So yeah, I guess I am also a little disappointed. I hope that these things will be fixed at some point so that the game can be enjoyed by everyone again.
pammiechick
New Spectator
3 years ago
THIS is why we DESPERATELY need competition.

Sims 4 has no competition and the reason I'm still playing. Once ANOTHER game comes, I will drop this like a rock because of the way they've treated US all these years. They're gluttonous and happy on our money because we have nothing else.

But another game is coming and only then will that make EA spend money and fix things. By then it'll be too late and it'll suffer the same ending that Sims City did many years ago.
Simmingal
Hero
3 years ago
"DaniRose2143;c-18176764" wrote:
@luciusstorm I understand your anger and frustration. My love for my sims themselves is what keeps me going, but I can totally understand why someone would get so upset that they walk away. I suppose I've become numb to this lack of addressing issues, it's been going on forever. Not just TS4, Isla Paradiso in TS3 was never fixed.

Tbh MWS was giving me major Isla Paradiso flashbacks

so I've been paranoid ever since that they're gonna just rain destruction upon sims 4 too shoving in the last of features made and moving to next title - again

the way theyre adding like just about anything in the game with very little concern for performance or if things work or not just makes me even more paranoid thats whats going on :neutral:

beg watcher its just all in my head eh

anyway another reason I am not particularily looking forward to new releases

got werewolves cause its a theme close to my heart but I will definitely hold down and reconsider thousand times before buying any pack thats not exactly 100% what i need now

cause apparently they no longer care if our computers explode or not or if our games are broken or not

anyway am tired of being broken record so I will just play my sims while I still can and beg watcher the destruction will end
DaniRose2143
Hero
3 years ago
"Simmingal;c-18176785" wrote:
"DaniRose2143;c-18176764" wrote:
@luciusstorm I understand your anger and frustration. My love for my sims themselves is what keeps me going, but I can totally understand why someone would get so upset that they walk away. I suppose I've become numb to this lack of addressing issues, it's been going on forever. Not just TS4, Isla Paradiso in TS3 was never fixed.

Tbh MWS was giving me major Isla Paradiso flashbacks

so I've been paranoid ever since that they're gonna just rain destruction upon sims 4 too shoving in the last of features made and moving to next title - again

the way theyre adding like just about anything in the game with very little concern for performance or if things work or not just makes me even more paranoid thats whats going on :neutral:

beg watcher its just all in my head eh

anyway another reason I am not particularily looking forward to new releases

got werewolves cause its a theme close to my heart but I will definitely hold down and reconsider thousand times before buying any pack thats not exactly 100% what i need now

cause apparently they no longer care if our computers explode or not or if our games are broken or not

anyway am tired of being broken record so I will just play my sims while I still can and beg watcher the destruction will end

I'm getting Isla Paradiso flashbacks from lots of things. That's why Werewolves is such a puzzle, they got it right for the most part. There are one or two little issues, but nothing earth shattering. So why have the other two packs and that big base game update been so full of issues? What made Werewolves so unique? I don't know why, but the way that one turned out I thought they had turned it around. I'm not rushing in anymore, even if it's something I want badly. From now on, I'm waiting and that goes for updates. I'm not taking todays update until I see a few days without posts on here saying somebody found a new gamebreaking bug from it.