Which themes you want for those 2020 packs?

"DaWaterRat;c-17455433" wrote:

You appear to be unaware of just how dark a young girl's mind can go...

And my mom had a dozen horses on a non-commercial farm. Ask horse people - they're companions, not just working animals.

The chances of the sims 4 going anywhere dark is nil. It will be cloyingly saccharine, nauseatingly disneyfied.

What's a non-commercial farm? A toy project for people with another source of income?

"secretlondon123;c-17457265" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-17455433" wrote:

You appear to be unaware of just how dark a young girl's mind can go...

And my mom had a dozen horses on a non-commercial farm. Ask horse people - they're companions, not just working animals.

The chances of the sims 4 going anywhere dark is nil. It will be cloyingly saccharine, nauseatingly disneyfied.

What's a non-commercial farm? A toy project for people with another source of income?

Non-commercial may have been the wrong term, But I did mean it as a farm (or, in my mom's case, ranch) where their crops or animals are not the regular/primary source of income for the household. Usually they're smaller, older family farms that are being priced out of the market by corporate farms, or just small farms that maintain smaller crops as a side income because it's the family's land. They're not "toy projects" by any means (that's just insulting.) Heck, my husband grew up on a small dairy farm - where his dad also worked as a Die Cutter in a factory and his mom was a cleaner.

I don't know where you live, but where my mom lives, there are a lot of farms that fall into this category. There are also lots of smaller horse ranches with a dozen or fewer horses that truly straddle the line between being pets and working animals - as do the goats, chickens, rabbits, geese, ducks, dogs and cats that are to be found on them.

I don't expect the sims to go dark any time soon, but treating farm animals as pets is not nearly as far outside of reality as you seem to think it is. So either you have an unnecessarily stark view of farms, or an exceptionally saccharine opinion of pets.

"Karon;c-17455680" wrote:
@crocobaura exactly, you don't need to kill/torture or treat animals bad for them to provide meat/food. Of course in highly industrial farms they end up suffering, but we are talking about small farmers. You could have pigs as a pet and to get their poo to fertilize the plants (like a the best super fertilizer or something crazy in sims like a golden poo that makes your plant sell 2x more than before... then they would reset to be a regular plant and you would need to feed your pig to get more of his fertilizer haha).
Than other pets like sheeps, llamas, rabbits, cats and dogs can all have their fur trimmed to make wool in real life.
Some of them, as well as cows, can provide milk... you could make chees out of it, or butter or whatever...
chickens could give you feathers (like, not forced, but those that fall naturally) to decorate stuff/collect/craft diy stuff... they can lay eggs, roosters could wake up your sim in the morning, etc
there's a long list of things that farm animals can do/produce, but they can also all be pets if you respect them, take your time to learn their behaviours and teach them stuff.

I would love a rooster that sings every day at six, seven, and eight in the morning and will wake my sim up. Pigs could also be able to find and bring you some truffles. Also chickens are kept in some areas as pest control, to protect against scorpions because they will literally eat everything.

I would like a Music EP with a singing career, bands and new instruments or a travel EP with resort and differents locations to visit with activities.
For GP, I'd like a relationship/romance GP.

I feel like we could get a showtime-esque EP with a singing and dancing career and possibly magicians. It would be live performances similar to showtime, but I feel like if they went that direction they should do more modern performances we see on stage today, so like singing and dancing... maybe bands? ?

more family play and more activities for other age groups other than young adults and adults. teens having sleepovers, kids having recitals, graduation events ect.

My wishlist for new packs include:

Occult: Fairies, Werewolves, and an overhaul of magic so Kids can be Spellcasters (the animation is in the game already there is no reason they couldn't cast basic kid friendly spells like Scrubaroo and HomeworkCompleteio). More magic themed lands with a medieval look.

Family: More vacation worlds with activities for kids too. Make it like Sims 1 Vacation where they can play carnival games and go on a snowboard half pipe.

Overall: An overhaul of relationships and more NPCs. Add things like zodiac signs, more traits (or make the existing ones do more stuff), preferences of favorite music, food, colors and an attraction system.

"Felicity1169;c-17458431" wrote:
My wishlist for new packs include:

Occult: Fairies, Werewolves, and an overhaul of magic so Kids can be Spellcasters (the animation is in the game already there is no reason they couldn't cast basic kid friendly spells like Scrubaroo and HomeworkCompleteio). More magic themed lands with a medieval look.

Family: More vacation worlds with activities for kids too. Make it like Sims 1 Vacation where they can play carnival games and go on a snowboard half pipe.

Overall: An overhaul of relationships and more NPCs. Add things like zodiac signs, more traits (or make the existing ones do more stuff), preferences of favorite music, food, colors and an attraction system.

@Felicity1169 I would love the snowboard half pipe and this in sims 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_lAF6cJ71M

How about a proper new Sims game rather than just recycled content all the time?

And by a new game I mean something that can actually manage new content. All of the cool ideas people have for TS4 always seem to be 'impractical' for TS4.

Time to move on now

If we get a farming pack it think it will be a game pack and not an expansion as it would rely on the already existing gardening features. I don’t think there would be enough new gameplay for an EP, I guess they could fit some occults in there but I hope they don’t.
I wish they keep that trend of separate packs for occults, this way people who have no interest in them can just skip those.