Why Do You Want More Death in Your Game?

"sunblond;c-16368920" wrote:

"AbyArashi;c-16368914" wrote:
It's a matter of how you manage yout storytelling. Sometimes I want to create stories where I have to kill my sims, not wait for them to die from being old, and the most death types there are the most interesting it is!

But there are cheats to kill sims, so picking a sim to kill for your story is not the same as having more deaths in the game that could affect a sim you are playing.

Yes, but the unexpected things are better. When your story has to change because of an unexpected death is good for me and makes things more enjoyable than having an script for everything

"Bearflex;d-936485" wrote:
One thing that boggles my mind is why people are always asking for more ways to kill their Sims? Personally I don't want my Sims to die horrible deaths.

Neither do I. We are of the same mind. I have had plenty of terrible things happen in real life, and have no need for it in a game, I am supposed to enjoy and relax with. The craving for death and injury is in my opinion just sickening. Nothing fun about it, it's deeply sad.

I like having death in the Sims, especially if it's a death that's not random and only happens as a result of your actions, such as not feeling your sim, not taking care of your sim when sick, allowing your sim to walk into the fire, getting your sim to fix the TV when they have low mechanical skill etc. It makes the game more challenging and keeps you engaged. I don't like how a lot of the deaths we do get in the Sims 4 are random (ie emotional deaths), it just takes away control from the player and I don't like how silly and childish some of them are. And the general lack of death just makes it dull and less engaging, because there's less to motivate you to do certain things or look after your sims. Even with pets, I don't like how nothing bad happens if you don't look after them. Even if they get sick nothing happens and therefore there's little incentive to take them to the vet. In the Sims 1, your pet could actually die if you didn't feed them, so that meant you made sure you kept an eye on them.

Also, and nobody can deny this happens, but many people enjoy killing their sims for the hell of it. I mean who DIDN'T remove the pool ladder on purpose while all of your sims were in there in the Sims 1, or make a fire death trap house and take the door away? Loads of people did it, it was almost a rite of passage for playing that game when I was a kid. Of course nobody would think to do this in real life or it made them an evil person, it was just a bit of fun and it was people experimenting, trying to see what they extent they could get the game to do crazy things.

Yes. Unexpected death and misfortune adds new possibilities to gameplay. I still remember my main household in The Sims 3. The founder's alien son died while trying to fix a computer (or was it a TV? I am not sure). However, I had plans for him, so I started a long quest to get the ingredients for ambrosia and the opportunity to bring his ghost back. It was worth it, though: not only I had fun bringing the son back, but I also got to build a deathfish pond in my backyard for my troubles.

I guess the bottom line for me is that one of the reasons I like The Sims, is that it is non-violent. I'm unable to enjoy other PC games because I don't find murder or violence "fun" and death is certainly not "fun" even in a game.

With this last dlc, more deaths were added. It seems like threads like this are giving credence to adding in more violence to the game.

Because my Sims grin so hard their lips are clipping through their eyeballs and it makes me want to murder them.

Like some others here, it's more for the challenge/incentive to improve skills, and the element of danger and surprise (even bad surprise) than simple sadism. It does also add to the story telling element greatly, and part of the fun of the sims for me is a bit of drama. I never liked locking sims in a room and starving them, or taking away the pool ladder. Even though I know they're just pixels, I still don't like to see them suffer, unless it's part of the story and they want to escape or be rescued. However, I confess I do laugh when a low level sim attempts something they shouldn't be (like repairing a tv with low mechanic skill) and meets an untimely end. I recently had a sim and her best friend become vampires. The friend sim came over to my played sim's house all excited to tell her (in my story), but since I had such a long walkway to the front door, she caught on fire in the sun on they way and died at the door. I laughed precisely because I didn't want or expect it. I was like AW MAN, darn vampire noob.

Yes, there have been times where I've had a sim kill other sims (via mod) because they were annoying or as part of the story. I had a Dexter type serial killer in the Sims 3, and it turned into one of my favorite story lines ever. So, I'm not sure if this answers why, but I can tell you it doesn't come in my case from a place of cruelty, but of needing a little true risk, excitement, and additional storytelling in game. In the same way I like to see a thriller movie instead of a movie watching someone cook and smile for 2 hours.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16369320" wrote:
We have so many ways to resurrect Sims, and it never feels as if we have to use them because our Sims are practically immortal.

I have my own rule that I can never resurrect sims or quit the game without saving. It makes you be a bit more careful if you care for your sims.

I protect my sims like the precious babies they are and almost never let one die. That said it's not all that fun if there isn't anything to protect them /from/.

"Nimie;c-16369006" wrote:

"sillyangel0906;c-16368856" wrote:
Yes and I want it to be instantaneous. None of this wait 3 days plum because then you know its going to happen if you don't cure it. If there's cures, they need to be harder to obtain. For example if you get poisoned in JA, you can either order a cure from the computer, or if you have bone dust, you can get a cure from the merchant. To me, the latter should be the only option because if you don't have the bone dust, then you have 3 days to find some. It just adds a little more drama and intensity that TS4 is missing.

But you always can play like that, I didn´t know I could buy the cure from the computer hahaha I only read the parte that said talk to selvadorians and see what they say. I understand your point that should be programmed to be more difficult but you can make it like that and never buy the cure

Pretty much this. If there's a way to kill a Sim, there should be a way around it. If I can manage to prevent/avoid dangers/deaths, I don't see why others can't manage to prevent/avoid cures/upgrading laundry machines, etc. Seems rather selfish to limit options, especially when the whole point of advocating more deaths and dangers is to increase them.