Why origin..

"Writin_Reg;c-17091910" wrote:
How you play - off line or online makes no difference at all but apparently you think it does so it gives you a since of some kind of sense of security - that really does not exist.

This is not exactly true assuming you don't use software that does collect your data. If your game is not tied to specific client like Steam or Origin (or basically, in other words, is DRM-free), no one except for MS (if you use Windows OS) and hardware companies can collect your data.

Anyway, it's worth noting that besides sharing data with other companies, EA and many IT companies in US do share your data with American and in some cases with Israeli government (mainly, Intel and AMD) just as well, but I'm pretty sure anyone knows that already. Of course there are also Chinese that also collect your data and share it with their own government. But same happens with your Internet provider and VPN providers too.

"Writin_Reg;c-17091910" wrote:
EA does a good job at keeping their players safer and their info protected than some companies do.

There were plenty of Origin user data leaks (mainly passwords what actually matters) that happened through various backdoors/exploits/security breaches. In fact, even Intel & AMD CPUs backdoor opens possibility for security risks from hackers, but closed and hard to reverse-engineer technology kind of serves like a protection against them, at least for now. There are some issues with Google too, actually, mainly it's related to a couple of specific things which are not that easy to figure out, but otherwise all your data (like emails and other stuff) is freely available to anyone on the web.

They might be better than some, but there are still better companies when it comes to this, Steam is definitely one of better ones, though Steam too (but rarely) had security breaches that were caused by bugs. The last one I remember was related to all users being able to access other random user accounts instead of their own by clicking on "account details" link.

There is no security anywhere on the web these days. It is up to you to keep up to date with OS security updates and choosing a very strong password and a separate one each app. important for you. I understand some people can download a pirated Sims 4 not from Origin but no security at all comes with that.

I don't particularly like others getting things free that I paid the right money for and there is less piracy from EA taking this step with Origin. It's just unfortunate that it has to be this way now.

Origin was never about Piracy, if it were they could easily change the .exe files of the game to not need it after the game has been cracked by pirates.

It's about the profitability of trading people's personal information and using it to manipulate people.

But you do not need internet to play sims 4 with origin? you only need internet for installation and gallery
also personally I do not wish to accumulate big hoard of discs I use once in 3 years to install something
just not practical and discs are dying out we in 2019 it is becoming old tech

one thing is tho idk how long we can trust origin to be around like what if they just stop having origin? then what? we just lose our games or?
also they really should come up with some new way to sell games irl because atm they just sell them in game boxes even if there is only a code which seems rather silly to me like you really need to use that much packaging for a code ea?

I search for months a solution but if I understood right, there's no a way to play The sims 4 without Origin? I really wish I could play the sims 4 as the sims 2.. without have to worried if one day origin will be not available.
I have some questions, I will try to ask.

1) Can I install the Sims 4 also in my laptop to go in the house at the beach I want to take the sims 4 with me. But my copy of The sims 4 is already installed on my PC here. What can I do?

2) I wish I could play the sims 4 always but I don't trust the 'software ' games , I always prefer the 'phisical copy' (DVD). What if between 6 or 7 years , Origin will be not supported or will change rules or anything else, and I will be not able to launch the Sims 4 anymore? (It already happened with other certain games and items that I've purchased by download and suddenly I could not play it anymore. I'm a player that last in long time. I'm not a player that not even in 10 years I forget to play The sims4. From time to time, I want always play my old games. (I still play a lot of my old games I own, so the same with the sims 4). I dont trust origin, and also, one day origin could be updates and it will reach a point it will be compatible with new pc systems, and maybe who is poor like me (that have always old pcs) it may have problems to launch the old (if still will exist) version of Origins. I mean.. I really don't like to play games virtually and that I can't have the DVD and install it when I wish on my pcs.
Also expansions, that are just virtual... i must confess that I don't feel entusiastic at all, to purchase something that I don't have in my hands (Im from '80 generation so I grow up with 'phisicals' items... i really wish to launch the sims 4 without origin... sigh..

Ok, I finished.. sorry for long message... ^^'

"thesims33;c-17106430" wrote:
I search for months a solution but if I understood right, there's no a way to play The sims 4 without Origin? I really wish I could play the sims 4 as the sims 2.. without have to worried if one day origin will be not available.
I have some questions, I will try to ask.

1) Can I install the Sims 4 also in my laptop to go in the house at the beach I want to take the sims 4 with me. But my copy of The sims 4 is already installed on my PC here. What can I do?

2) I wish I could play the sims 4 always but I don't trust the 'software ' games , I always prefer the 'phisical copy' (DVD). What if between 6 or 7 years , Origin will be not supported or will change rules or anything else, and I will be not able to launch the Sims 4 anymore? (It already happened with other certain games and items that I've purchased by download and suddenly I could not play it anymore. I'm a player that last in long time. I'm not a player that not even in 10 years I forget to play The sims4. From time to time, I want always play my old games. (I still play a lot of my old games I own, so the same with the sims 4). I dont trust origin, and also, one day origin could be updates and it will reach a point it will be compatible with new pc systems, and maybe who is poor like me (that have always old pcs) it may have problems to launch the old (if still will exist) version of Origins. I mean.. I really don't like to play games virtually and that I can't have the DVD and install it when I wish on my pcs.
Also expansions, that are just virtual... i must confess that I don't feel entusiastic at all, to purchase something that I don't have in my hands (Im from '80 generation so I grow up with 'phisicals' items... i really wish to launch the sims 4 without origin... sigh..

Ok, I finished.. sorry for long message... ^^'

you can install the game on multiple devices through origin it is no problem
and no it is not possible to play ts4 with disc because discs do not exist in first place you just have codes now
which yeah I get its bit iffy thinking what after origin but since we can't know anyways I prefer to just forget about it until there is problem

My Origin won't go online. I logged in to Origin & my internet works but still can't get online with Origin after the October 3rd update.

"SERVERFRA;c-17270455" wrote:
My Origin won't go online. I logged in to Origin & my internet works but still can't get online with Origin after the October 3rd update.

Have you tried reinstalling Origin?

"Seera1024;c-17056462" wrote:

"nerdfashion;c-17056429" wrote:
You can play when you're not connected to the internet, you just have to start the game first. And, as Muzick said, it protects against piracy.

That's the problem the OP is talking about. When Origin has problems it can trickle down to playing games. People were having issues getting their game library to launch. And if the player doesn't have the Sims 4 pinned to their task bar or know where to find the actual .exe for the game, it leaves them unable to play the game because Origin has issues. Or Origin wasn't kicking in enough to do what it needed to launch the game even in offline mode. I didn't try to play Sims 4 during the affected time period so I can't really say what the exact problem was.

When I have internet problems I can't play my Mass Effect 3 saves because it can't verify that I own the DLC that are used in those saves. And I don't play the multiplayer. And I get plum at EA for not letting me play my saves because of that. I shouldn't be punished for having internet issues just because of a small portion of players who pirate.

Anti-piracy measures also need to make sure that they don't turn around and create more pirates due to people wanting to bypass the problems the anti-piracy measures create.

Plus, the "it protects against piracy" argument is garbage. Nothing protects against piracy, because hackers eventually find a way around the protection. It's always the legitimate users who suffer.

"Noree_Doree;c-17056702" wrote:
As far as piracy I wish they did things like some older consoles. Like the PlayStation and on of the Spiral games for example. A YouTuber made a video about this that I saw the other day where, if you pirate the game, it will make you lose progress on the way and if you have the patience to make it to the final boss it will send you back to the beginning having lost all progress. We need more companies that do that or some sort of similar thing.

Or like that one Serious Sam game with the immortal scorpion-man thing that keeps coming after you if you have a pirated copy of the game, or the one with the chicken gun! Personally, I'd build in a pop-up that interrupts the player on a regular interval after the first hour of gameplay (once every 2-3 minutes) that says, "Enjoying the game? Click here to pay for and register your copy on our site/Steam/ect." And it would sit there, with the game totally paused with that pop-up in their face and taking up practically the whole screen for, like, a whole minute before it timed out and let them keep playing. It would keep happening until the pirate finally paid for the game. Oh, they could play it, they could play it to the very end, but it would be much more annoying to do. I'd even make sure it's super-hard to mod out, so it could take a long, long time before anyone figures out how to make the pop-ups go away without paying. Now THAT'S how you turn piracy into profit...

Origin can definitely be a pain, but as far as a DRM measure is concerned, it's still better than SecuROM or easily-lost print materials that games of old used. As far as being a service and a launcher, it's not quite as good as Steam, even with offering the occasional free game, but it's not entirely awful...and, yeah, at least there's offline mode. Still, I think having clever ways to punish or annoy pirates in-game is much better DRM than attaching invasive DRM programs, attaching the game to a launcher or server of some kind, or having a code sheet printed on dark red paper packed in with the game that the player needs to get past a certain point...

https://youtu.be/HjEbpMgiL7U