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6 years ago

Why?

So, I needed to say something after the release of this new pack because I need to think about the path this game it is taking. The Sims 4 is quite different from others series. This game is a turn...

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I needed to say something after the release of this new pack because I need to think about the path this game it is taking. The Sims 4 is quite different from others series. This game is a turn...","body@stringLength":"4954","rawBody":"So, I needed to say something after the release of this new pack because I need to think about the path this game it is taking.

The Sims 4 is quite different from others series. This game is a turning point in so many ways. It is true that every evolution of the game had something different from the previous ones, but this one is like a completetly new game: the cartoonish style, very little customization, restrictions everywhere, no story progression, many community lots missing (police, graveyard, etc.), no cars... there are so many things left behind. Now we have a pack that... it is not The Sims style at all.

Since I can recall, fans have been stating massively and clearly that The Sims SHOULD NOT EVER BE AN ONLINE GAME. What does EA about this? They tried to release The Sims 4 with the online feature against the opinion of most of the the community. Soon someone very clever in EA realised that this was a wrong choice and they tried to go back and change the game in a rush to remove the online feature. It was too late and the game was released with so many restrictions and missing features that the community was so disappointed. This was the first and main wrong choice.

The Sims 3 World Adventures was heavly critizied by fans because it was goal-driven game. Again fans have been stating massively that this game SHOULD BE A SANDBOX GAME and not a goal-driven or adventure game.
What does EA about this? They release:
- Repetitive and goal driven careers.
- Jungle Adventures pack which is very similar to the critizied World Adventures.
- Stranger Ville pack with a one-play and very linear story that only appeals the first time you play it.
Again a wrong choice (in my opinion).

At this poing I have to stop and think about this franchise. Why are they doing this? Really, WHY? Let's think about it.

Maybe the fan base is changing and the new players have a very different opinion and play-style that we, the older players have. Maybe the game should change and offer new and fresh things and we should change with it.

Truth is that every release will make some people angry and some others very exciting to get it. This is innevitable because the fan base is very huge and each of us have different play-styles. But this is too much. They are doing just the opposite many people want (or at least that is what I feel about it).

Probably this last pack would sell very well. The fan base is always very supportive, like myself, beacuse we DO love The Sims. In my case this game is lacking so many things that I bought almost every pack, stuff pack and expansion in order to fill the emptyness of the game. That does not mean that I like the game. I know that buying this packs I am saying to EA: ey, I buy it because I like it. They would think that if the game sells really good it means that people want more of this. I know I'm guilty because I'm sending the wrong message.

This last pack... it was nice to play the story once... but now... what does it have, appart from the story, that would change my game? A new scenery, a new career and very few new objects but nothing more. This pack would not impact my game very much at all. The new world is not very customizable and the number of lots is again very low, so probably I would not use it much.
In my opinion this new pack would be fine if the game had all basic things people is asking for. It is always good to have fresh new things. But having so many things missing in the game I think this is not the time to release something like this.
I see in forums that people is asking for supernatural, beaches and swimming in the ocean, university, farming... but EA thinks it is better to spend money, time and resources in something like... this pack.

Is the fan base changing and EA is trying to make a different game for the new players? Are they trying to innovate at any cost? Are the sales that high just because we are all buying things just trying to make the game acceptable?

I'm sorry but I'm getting tired. You're losing me. I really don't know how much longer I can support you EA, because you are letting me down. I just wanted you to know. This game is jut boring since the begining. Everything is just so limited, restricted, linear and only-once-play that I am so bored.

For those of you who are tempted to say that I should not state what people wants or does not want, It is my opinion and the way I feel and what I think people wants. I read many reviews and forums and the impression I get from all of them (MY impression) is that most of the new players like the game but the older ones, like myself, are mainly disappointed with this evolution of the game.

Maybe we should accept the game as it is. Maybe the game should change... or maybe it is dying... what do you think?
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The Sims 4 is quite different from others series. This game is a turning point in so many ways. It is true that every evolution of the game had something different from the previous ones, but this one is like a completetly new game: the cartoonish style, very little customization, restrictions everywhere, no story progression, many community lots missing (police, graveyard, etc.), no cars... there are so many things left behind. Now we have a pack that... it is not The Sims style at all.

Since I can recall, fans have been stating massively and clearly that The Sims SHOULD NOT EVER BE AN ONLINE GAME. What does EA about this? They tried to release The Sims 4 with the online feature against the opinion of most of the the community. Soon someone very clever in EA realised that this was a wrong choice and they tried to go back and change the game in a rush to remove the online feature. It was too late and the game was released with so many restrictions and missing features that the community was so disappointed. This was the first and main wrong choice.

The Sims 3 World Adventures was heavly critizied by fans because it was goal-driven game. Again fans have been stating massively that this game SHOULD BE A SANDBOX GAME and not a goal-driven or adventure game.
What does EA about this? They release:
- Repetitive and goal driven careers.
- Jungle Adventures pack which is very similar to the critizied World Adventures.
- Stranger Ville pack with a one-play and very linear story that only appeals the first time you play it.
Again a wrong choice (in my opinion).

At this poing I have to stop and think about this franchise. Why are they doing this? Really, WHY? Let's think about it.

Maybe the fan base is changing and the new players have a very different opinion and play-style that we, the older players have. Maybe the game should change and offer new and fresh things and we should change with it.

Truth is that every release will make some people angry and some others very exciting to get it. This is innevitable because the fan base is very huge and each of us have different play-styles. But this is too much. They are doing just the opposite many people want (or at least that is what I feel about it).

Probably this last pack would sell very well. The fan base is always very supportive, like myself, beacuse we DO love The Sims. In my case this game is lacking so many things that I bought almost every pack, stuff pack and expansion in order to fill the emptyness of the game. That does not mean that I like the game. I know that buying this packs I am saying to EA: ey, I buy it because I like it. They would think that if the game sells really good it means that people want more of this. I know I'm guilty because I'm sending the wrong message.

This last pack... it was nice to play the story once... but now... what does it have, appart from the story, that would change my game? A new scenery, a new career and very few new objects but nothing more. This pack would not impact my game very much at all. The new world is not very customizable and the number of lots is again very low, so probably I would not use it much.
In my opinion this new pack would be fine if the game had all basic things people is asking for. It is always good to have fresh new things. But having so many things missing in the game I think this is not the time to release something like this.
I see in forums that people is asking for supernatural, beaches and swimming in the ocean, university, farming... but EA thinks it is better to spend money, time and resources in something like... this pack.

Is the fan base changing and EA is trying to make a different game for the new players? Are they trying to innovate at any cost? Are the sales that high just because we are all buying things just trying to make the game acceptable?

I'm sorry but I'm getting tired. You're losing me. I really don't know how much longer I can support you EA, because you are letting me down. I just wanted you to know. This game is jut boring since the begining. Everything is just so limited, restricted, linear and only-once-play that I am so bored.

For those of you who are tempted to say that I should not state what people wants or does not want, It is my opinion and the way I feel and what I think people wants. I read many reviews and forums and the impression I get from all of them (MY impression) is that most of the new players like the game but the older ones, like myself, are mainly disappointed with this evolution of the game.

Maybe we should accept the game as it is. Maybe the game should change... or maybe it is dying... what do you think?
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The key is keeping an open mind. One of the mods at AHQ mentioned that University would be redundant and I have to agree. It took me two days to figure out how to do a University with a Greek system without mods, and about four hours to design a glitch-free mod that works almost exactly like the TS2 UNI pack after that.

Doing so, I found a lot of hidden gems in the neighborhood story, like the Villareal family's struggle with mood swings and psychiatric issues, and the complicated interrelationships between various characters in various neighborhoods. I found out particularly good students can get a trophy for being the class valedictorian. I see potential for incorporating some of the Strangerville features into other story-lines.

I have a strong hunch about the direction the Strangerville story will take, but I'm not going to let that spoil my fun in solving it.","body@stringLength":"1171","rawBody":"Strangerville was one of three packs I actually purchased the day they came out. I loved Strangetown in TS2 and look forward to playing out the Strangerville story when I'm done getting a few Sims passing this semester at University.

The key is keeping an open mind. One of the mods at AHQ mentioned that University would be redundant and I have to agree. It took me two days to figure out how to do a University with a Greek system without mods, and about four hours to design a glitch-free mod that works almost exactly like the TS2 UNI pack after that.

Doing so, I found a lot of hidden gems in the neighborhood story, like the Villareal family's struggle with mood swings and psychiatric issues, and the complicated interrelationships between various characters in various neighborhoods. I found out particularly good students can get a trophy for being the class valedictorian. I see potential for incorporating some of the Strangerville features into other story-lines.

I have a strong hunch about the direction the Strangerville story will take, but I'm not going to let that spoil my fun in solving 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