Would you buy a real eco-living GP?

"ravynwolvf;c-16275966" wrote:
It might be more interesting if they made it "Rural Living". A lot of the things mentioned could still be in it, but it would be easier to theme it. I think there could be more farm type items with interesting use than living off the grid; things like solar panels and such you really wouldn't notice, other than a change in bills.

Agreed, I actually think the farming and eco-living themes go amazingly well together. If they'd reintroduce (even rabbit hole) supermarkets, and the restriction of only being able to cook dishes for which you have the right ingredients, the eco-living theme could be really fun / complex. It would offer different ways of (& reasons for) being self-sufficient: maybe your sims primarily use renewable sources to save on water / energy bills or even light bulbs (which sometimes break and can be bought at the supermarket). Or maybe they grow a lot of produce so they don't have to buy as many ingredients. Or, your more business-oriented sims can make money off of their self-sufficiency by partnering up with the supermarkets. Now obviously, all of this would be much better with farm animals (cows, pigs, horses, chickens). I just think that as soon as these & a rural word come in to play, we're inevitably looking at an EP-sized pack. Which I definitely prefer, but if there aren't enough years left to put something like this on their EP list (given it's never been on it before and we only have 1 EP / year anyway), then I'd definitely enjoy it coming in the form of a "self-sufficiency" / eco-living GP. Maybe they could even add a couple of object-like chickens, so we could make eggs and such. But yes, I guess a big part of the idea of what I like about a farming theme (self-sufficiency, affecting far more than just bills) could fit into a smaller, more focused pack as well.

ETA: many edits, cause I'm having a hard time expressing myself clearly tonight :')

It really depends. If it were MUCH more modernly focused yes. If we had things like solar power or more modern designs then yes. If everything in the pack is more of that "sweet country" style then no. I really really don't like the aesthetic, and unless the rest of the pack was really well done I just think it'd be a waste of money for me.

I kind of feel like the farming aspects would be an easier sell in a farming specific pack. If it were going to be a true eco living I'd want things like hydroponic farming, solar influences, plant nurseries, the ability to go around and find things to recycle, composting etc.

Though all that aside I would really love to have more farming activities, as I'm currently designing a huge part of one of my CAW projects around (though that's for Sims 3, but still, I do love farming!).

I would love to have farm animals and be able to do nectar making/preserving food. I have several Sims that are more farming-oriented, so being able to 'live off the land' even more so would be perfect!

My answer is probably depending upon what is in it. I evaluate every pack on a case-by-case basis. I haven't jumped on laundry but it's still a maybe for me in the right mood, especially for the CAS/BB. A combo of off the grid and food preserves? Yeah, I'd be likely to be interested.

The problem that underlines this will be, "If it's going to be an ECO LIVING pack, then it better stay central to that theme!" The further we go into farming and whatnot the further from eco living it will eventually become and it might as well just turn into a farming pack. Also, just adding a couple things considered eco living does not constitute eco living as central to the original concept of it.

"AuronoiChieftain;c-16276675" wrote:
I'd buy it, If they completely SCRAP the popular, Boho, Country Bumpkin Vibe, and go for Modern ECO Living Such as

1. more efficient upgrades to everything in the house (from Windows and Doors, to even your Appliences, Electronics, and even Plumbing),
2. Aqua Culture (the art of growing plants and breeding fish for food, with minimal effort, becuase the Fish and Plants take care of eachover by the fish waste fertalizing the plants, and the plants waste feeding the fish),
3. Beekeeping (for your sweet tooth)
4. Renewable energy (such as Wind Turbines, Solar Panels, Geothermal, and Batteries, to store the extra energy)

I think when the average person thinks of being Eco Concious and thinking it means NO/MINIMAL TECH, RUSTIC/COUNTRY BUMPKIN, I think THATS what puts SO MANY people off of it, Its what puts me off of it, Yet I wan't to be Eco Freindly as well, WITHOUT being without modern amenaties.

So when EA/MAXIS decides to make an ECO Pack of any kind (SIMGURUS, I MEAN YOU), Research modern ways to be eco friendly, without sacrificing Modern Technology, believe me, you'd be amazed by actual Eco Technologies that exist right now, and I don't mean just in the Renewable Energies department (plus the magic of Effiency).

Yeah agreed, don't really need too much of the boho style either. Although I don't mind more ways of living without technology in TS4 (I still wish they would give us a way not to have to use that damn phone for example). You're right though that there's plenty of eco friendly tech and some of it would definitely be nice to see included, but in the spirit of options, I'd enjoy it if we also got more ways not to use tech and have some sims be more disconnected and self-sufficient :)

Very much so! From that description, it could be a good part of a full-on rural/farming EP - a big world and some cows and sheep and horses.

"elelunicy;c-16275787" wrote:
I wouldn’t want a Eco-Living GP if there are only 4-5 game packs left in TS4’s life span. There are so many better themes they could do.

Why do so many people think that TS 4 is coming to the end soon?

Doesn’t quite interest me. I think this would be one of those packs that I’d wait around for a sale, but I’d definitely not buy it at release. There have been only 3 other packs like that for me.

"SimTrippy;d-933728" wrote:
So one that includes everything from off the grid, nectar making/food preserves, carbon footprint and possibly chickens and other animals you could use to make eggs, sell, or eat? :)

OK, well I voted "no" for eco-living as I understood its meaning. I should have read what you wrote up there ... because I would be interested in Nectar making/food preserves chickens and other animals that I could get eggs/milk/whathaveyou from. But I would like those in any pack -- not necessarily eco-living ... so you can change my vote to a "maybe." If I can redo it, I'll pick the maybe option.

I just don't care for solar panels, water retention things, or similar items. But nectar making, preserves, and farm animals: Yes!