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3 years ago
Ok...
I'll put this here since it's got it's own thread now.
I'm extremely suspicious of Overwolf. They might not be malware now, but they have been caught doing it in the past. When they took over Curseforge things started happening with it on my system and many others. I used 'Curse' and it's addon managers in one version or another for 15 years.
Maybe they've cleaned up their act. Vegas used to be pretty shady and now it's a family theme park so things can change.
Here's my last statement in the other thread that started mention of this issue.
******
Former usage of it, and communication with others who used it. Once it was acquired by Overwolf they loaded it up with spam, some of which put malware on people's systems. Even when you managed to avoid malware, it would slow a system down and run up your CPU with all sorts of "things" it decided to do in the background.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwolf/comments/k9d8y2/overwolf_is_bloatware_just_give_us_curseforge/
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/267658-minecraft-javawexe-in-the-curseforge-is-flagged-as-malware/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/k4vfef/are_the_curseforgeoverwolf_clients_considered_to/
https://techysmag.com/619/is-curseforge-safe/
www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=nfE7vICGzmw ("someone's how-to on putting malware on curseforge").
https://www.makeuseof.com/minecraft-is-a-hotbed-for-malware-heres-why/
https://bittsguides.com/overwolf-curseforge-review/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/jqnzy6/there_is_an_alternative_to_the_sht_that_is/
We can go on and on.
These links go back and forth and aren't as conclusive as things looked back in 2021. So you could come away from those with an opposite conclusion. Most of my opinion is based on seeing my own computer's and those I was gaming with start having issues and comparing our Network traffic and CPU usage with each other and against systems free of Overwolf...
There are other addon managers out there that are 'ad free'. Especially after Overwolf took over Curseforge, people put together solutions to avoid infested or 'resource hijacked' systems.
That said, the Overwolf people went after any of these other options that were letting you download from their servers without having your system infected:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-end-of-ajour-overwolf-announces-new-api-roadmap-to-restrict-third-party-324892
So options have narrowed since I was last looking.
Maybe they're cleaning up their act now. When I gave it up they were forcing Overwolf to be run alongside it and that was a double hit of lag, spam, and weird processes running on my machines.
I used one version or another of curse's addon manager from 2006 to 2020 or 2021. Once Overwolf took over things just got really weird and stuff started happening to my system, and to a lot of people I was gaming with. So we found ways to move on. Then I moved on from the games that used those things for off-topic reasons well covered in the news.
It's been sold multiple times
I'm putting this reply in an edit before your post because talking about this, even the first mention of it above not by me - is off topic for this thread. I think there's another thread specifically about this, and I might join that.
That's my piece. Since it seems some people here have an actual affiliation with Overwolf and so will be primed to defend it, I'm not going to stick around and debate them.
Just here to note my disappointment. There still are alternatives. Like Nexus popular in the Skyrim community or Minion popular in the Elder Scrolls community. Even the 'horrid method' of using github for it that was being used by Final Fantasy MMOers for sub-parts of their now banned mod (just to give an example even worse that Overwolf - but in that case only because it's not user friendly. Technology wise the Github method was actually the most the most security conscious).
But I imagine Overwolf has better company reps that were more polished in presenting the offer.
.
I'll put this here since it's got it's own thread now.
I'm extremely suspicious of Overwolf. They might not be malware now, but they have been caught doing it in the past. When they took over Curseforge things started happening with it on my system and many others. I used 'Curse' and it's addon managers in one version or another for 15 years.
Maybe they've cleaned up their act. Vegas used to be pretty shady and now it's a family theme park so things can change.
Here's my last statement in the other thread that started mention of this issue.
******
"luthienrising;c-18193059" wrote:
quote="friendsfan367"luthienrising;c-18192959" wrote:
News
EA is partnering with OverWolf to bring Sims mods to CurseForge. There will be several modders with content already there when this launches, but it will be optional for modders to use.
i know you said no questions but will they still be free?
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Yes. There is no charge on CurseForge for mods. Modders are also welcome to collect donations from players elsewhere. Mods would also be automatically updated for you."Jyotai;c-18193038" wrote:
Worst outcome possible there. Curseforge is more or less malware.
No idea where you're getting that from
Former usage of it, and communication with others who used it. Once it was acquired by Overwolf they loaded it up with spam, some of which put malware on people's systems. Even when you managed to avoid malware, it would slow a system down and run up your CPU with all sorts of "things" it decided to do in the background.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwolf/comments/k9d8y2/overwolf_is_bloatware_just_give_us_curseforge/
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/267658-minecraft-javawexe-in-the-curseforge-is-flagged-as-malware/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/k4vfef/are_the_curseforgeoverwolf_clients_considered_to/
https://techysmag.com/619/is-curseforge-safe/
www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=nfE7vICGzmw ("someone's how-to on putting malware on curseforge").
https://www.makeuseof.com/minecraft-is-a-hotbed-for-malware-heres-why/
https://bittsguides.com/overwolf-curseforge-review/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/jqnzy6/there_is_an_alternative_to_the_sht_that_is/
We can go on and on.
These links go back and forth and aren't as conclusive as things looked back in 2021. So you could come away from those with an opposite conclusion. Most of my opinion is based on seeing my own computer's and those I was gaming with start having issues and comparing our Network traffic and CPU usage with each other and against systems free of Overwolf...
There are other addon managers out there that are 'ad free'. Especially after Overwolf took over Curseforge, people put together solutions to avoid infested or 'resource hijacked' systems.
That said, the Overwolf people went after any of these other options that were letting you download from their servers without having your system infected:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-end-of-ajour-overwolf-announces-new-api-roadmap-to-restrict-third-party-324892
So options have narrowed since I was last looking.
Maybe they're cleaning up their act now. When I gave it up they were forcing Overwolf to be run alongside it and that was a double hit of lag, spam, and weird processes running on my machines.
I used one version or another of curse's addon manager from 2006 to 2020 or 2021. Once Overwolf took over things just got really weird and stuff started happening to my system, and to a lot of people I was gaming with. So we found ways to move on. Then I moved on from the games that used those things for off-topic reasons well covered in the news.
"nynvieealmere;c-18193335" wrote:
I used Curse for some games years and years ago is Curseforge the same thing?
It's been sold multiple times
I'm putting this reply in an edit before your post because talking about this, even the first mention of it above not by me - is off topic for this thread. I think there's another thread specifically about this, and I might join that.
That's my piece. Since it seems some people here have an actual affiliation with Overwolf and so will be primed to defend it, I'm not going to stick around and debate them.
Just here to note my disappointment. There still are alternatives. Like Nexus popular in the Skyrim community or Minion popular in the Elder Scrolls community. Even the 'horrid method' of using github for it that was being used by Final Fantasy MMOers for sub-parts of their now banned mod (just to give an example even worse that Overwolf - but in that case only because it's not user friendly. Technology wise the Github method was actually the most the most security conscious).
But I imagine Overwolf has better company reps that were more polished in presenting the offer.
.
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