Sul sul, With the release of any game update inevitably come the mods and custom content broken by said patch. We understand how important some of these are to your individual playstyles, and to help reduce game downtime after a patch these are tracked in a thread by the community; for a list of updated mods you can check @luthienrising's posts below. Please note, this thread assumes that you are fully patched to the latest available game update for The Sims 4.

IntroductionIf you’ve come to this thread, it’s probably for one of two reason: [1] you use game mods or custom content (CC) and something went wrong in Sims after the game updated or [2] you use game mods or custom (CC) and you heard that you should do something about game update time.Mods (game mods and CC) aren’t created by Maxis — they’re created by Simmers, who tie into The Sims 4 game code. When the game is updated, the code that gets updated is going to be the code that some mod out there “talks” to, which means that mod can “break”. A mod that uses code that almost never changes will almost never “break”. A mod that uses code that gets changed a lot will need updating a lot. This is nobody’s fault: it’s just how mods and games work together.So how does this affect you as a player who uses mods? An outdated mod (one that’s fallen behind the code it relies on) can cause you problems. It might only result in last exception (LE) error files and not seem to do anything in your game. It might make parts of the game inaccessible or really weird looking. It might make a “save” permanently unplayable, especially if you’ve saved when you exit. It might stop the game or your save or a household opening at all.So here you are! This thread is here for support in handling your game and mods after the most recent game update, to help you solve mod problems that come up (and give you extra guidance on what some commons mod-related problems are right now), and as one way for players and modders to pass on news about mods.IndexTips and Tricks for Mod Users at Update Time — including how to find what “broke”Current Mod-Related IssuesOther AHQ ResourcesBroken/Updated Mods and CC, September 26, 2023 Update — now here on AHQ!How to Use Mods/CCThe Sims 4 Bugs — for when it turns out your problem wasn’t because of a modCommon Game Fixing Mods - Hero ApprovedTroubleshooting Your Game — beyond mod-hunting

Current Mod-Related IssuesNew Issues This PatchSymptom: Cooking UI is empty; Sims can't prepare mealsKnown Causes: Color Sliders (thepancake1 and MizoreYukii), 15 Clubs Per Sim (King Zace); TOOL Mod is also affecting UINote: Updates are available.Symptom: Sims can't put food in oven or refuse to cook; a last exception file might be producedKnown Causes: This is NOT mod related. It's caused by the DHD Standard Gas Oven from Blazin' Ladles. Replace the oven.Note: Don't try to place the oven in Build/Buy; it can become much fussier to delete. A bugfix is available from thunder1183.Symptom: Simple Living and grocery shopping don't work. Ingredient requirements don't work. New categories for cooking aren't available. Cooking remains possible, though.Known Causes: various cooking mods, including Srsly's SCCO and SCCORNote: Some cooking mods require that you make changes in game before removing the mod to prevent more serious errors. For SCCO, this means deleting all food and plates. Other mods may have similar requirements.Older IssuesThe issues listed here are mostly for mods that don't yet have updates. Keeping mods updated will help prevent many issues. Consider catching up on mod news if you've been away from the game for a while. Some other, less common symptoms are listed with mods known to cause them in the current Outdated and Updated Mods thread.Symptom: Aliens (and possibly other Sims) are missing their headsKnown Causes: various outdated CAS default mods, especially eyelash modsNote: Check default CAS mods for updates and alternativesSymptom: Horses don’t appear in the relationship panelKnown Cause: No More Relationship Culling by NeiaNote: Other mods are available to replace this oneSymptom: Horse interactions not availableKnown Causes: various outdated mods, including PlantSim Inheritance v1-A, Be a Little SeriousSymptom: Sims can't ride horsesKnown Causes: mods for belly size, mods for pregnancy walkSymptom: Sims Infants gameplay failsKnown Causes: Fixed Nyx's Enhanced Aliens, Children can live alone after all elders diedNote: There are likely other outdated mods with this symptomSymptom: Lot fails to load for Live mode gameplayKnown Causes: noextramoneyonpromotion (Bienchen); outdated versions of Meaningful Stories, SNB-BillsNote: This can be caused by game bugs and by outdated mods, especially complex script mods (mods that include a .ts4script file). The error message is important. Test without mods before posting a thread; include a screenshot of the error message. Note also that in some cases, that household will have become corrupted and you'll need to go back to an earlier version of the save.Symptom: Game stuck in loadingNote: No known single cause; try a 50-50Symptom: Sim profile (in Live mode) brokenKnown Cause: AD(H)D trait by FiendModsNote:When a custom trait is removed, Sims will lose the trait and not be automatically given a new one.Symptom: Male Sims are invisibleKnown Cause: Various slidersNote: These mods can be removed without your Sims' shape changing. Many have replacements available.Symptom: Sims arms and legs stretch or disappear, and other Sim glitching in Live modeKnown Cause: outdated height slidersSymptom: Food stall and Festival vendors only sell produceKnown Causes: Custom Food stalls, playable NPC jobsNote: Possible permanent corruption if you load a save with broken food stalls. Make sure to update any food stalls before playing or remove them before updating.Symptom: No beds can be placed in Build/Buy modeKnown Cause: outdated CC bedsNote: Find replacements or batch-fix in Sims 4 Studio. If Maxis adds a new function to beds again, working CC will not be available until Sims 4 Studio is reupdated to include that function in a new batch fix.Symptoms: Sims won't eat; Sims reset when doing homeworkKnown Cause: outdated CC, including phone modsCommon Issues at Game UpdatesSome mods are especially sensitive to game updates. Most of these mods that you can temporarily play without with no harm done to your save. They are also generally quickly updated, so watch for those updates!Symptom: Blank icons and UI glitching in the CAS, Build/Buy, or Live mode UI; Main Menu and the Gallery showing "wwwwwwwwww" instead of text; Build/Buy GUI missingKnown Causes: Color Sliders (thepancake1 and MizoreYukii), 15 Clubs Per Sim (King Zace), UI Cheats Extension (weerbesu), Better BuildBuy (TwistedMexi), More Columns in CAS (weerbesu), CC wrench icon mods, and other mods that change the UINote: Playing without 15 Clubs Per Sim may result in Sims losing club memberships. UI Cheats Extension generally isn't the cause of CAS glitching.Symptom: All color options are broken in CAS. Color does not change.Known Cause: More Columns in CAS (weerbesu)Symptom: The Gallery won't loadKnown Causes: Color Sliders, 15 Clubs Per SimSymptom: World map has overlying textKnown Causes: UI Cheats Extension, Better BuildBuy, and other mods that change the UISymptom: When trying to load a new world, only a white screen is shownKnown Cause: T.O.O.L Mod (TwistedMexi)Symptom: X on an accessory is missing in CASKnown Cause: More Columns in CASSymptom: The mouse cursor has weird iconsKnown Causes: various CAS mods

Tips and Tricks for Mod Users at Update TimeBefore Sims UpdatesBecause some outdated (“broken”) mods can actually corrupt your save file, before you let the EA App update your game, back up your Saves folder. If you aren’t sure when an update might come out, you might want to get in the habit of doing this regularly.“Backing up” a folder or file means making a copy of it in a different place. You’ll find your save files in Documents > Electronic Arts > The Sims 4 > Saves. You can copy that whole folder to somewhere else — your desktop, say, or a different folder you make yourself, like Documents > Sims Backups. Now you’ll have a pre-patch copy to fall back on in case you run into serious problems.It can be very tempting to just set up a syncing app, like OneDrive, to sync your Documents folder online as a way to back up your saves. Don’t do this. The Sims 4 and synching programs hate each other. You’ll run into whole new problems, including things like the app putting mods you delete back.It can also be very tempting to rely on a mod manager to handle your mods folder for you. Mod managers from sources that aren’t working with Maxis can also cause you more problems than they fix by doing things like renaming files (so that you end up with duplicates eventually) or putting back files you deleted. The best way to manage your mods is generally to take the responsibility for it.One way of taking that responsibility is to have an organized Mods folder. If you don’t have a lot of mods and have Curseforge doing your installations, you can ignore this: you don’t want to be making subfolders and moving things into them. But if you download mods manually or have a lot of mods (in which case, download them manually!), having subfolders that organize by, say, the name of the creator can help you when you’re doing a 50-50 (more below) or hunting for a mod that needs to be deleted or replaced.After Sims UpdatesMany patches change enough in the game to trigger it to turn off the setting that lets the game “see” your Mods folder. If you save like that, everything that those mods effect — your Sims’ hair, their kitchen cupboards, their careers and aspirations, their height, etc. — will be stripped from that save and need to be put back in by you. You don’t want that to happen. You also don’t want to have that save corrupted unexpectedly.So, after the game update,DON’T delete your Saves backup. You might still need it.Check to see if mods you use have been reported “broken” (outdated) or obsolete (for example, a bugfix that’s no longer needed) so you can remove those or wait for them to be updated.Check to see if mods you use have been updated. Some modders will update very quickly. Others need more time for various reasons, all of which are absolutely okay — the update might be complex, they might prioritize more popular mods than what you use, they might be very busy with other responsibilities; they might be unwell. Please give them space. Too many modders have left modding because they were tired of being asked “Are we there yet?” by impatient players.If you really want to play now but mods you use aren’t updated yet, consider making a new save that doesn’t rely on the outdated mods. (Select “New” on the home page. If you have multiple “saves” after this, you can use “Load” to pick out the one you want to play next.)If you do play your “old” save that relies on mods, don’t save it if you haven’t re-enabled mods. To re-enable mods, head to your Settings, under Other. But keep that backup of your Saves folder!When Problems HappenIf you use mods, someday problems will happen, especially if you use a lot of them. Of course, not all problems after game updates are caused by outdated mods! So this section includes a test for that.Check to see if mods you use are known to be outdated or have been updated. This applied to all mods — both game mods and custom content. Yes, your Sim’s eyelashes can break the whole game! Delete and replace updated mods, after checking for new installation instructions. Delete obsolete mods. Delete outdated mods that haven’t been updated. Often this is enough to solve your problem. If not, keep going!Check if the symptom you have is commonly mod-related for this patch or a recent patch. You'll find some info about this in the next post.Test whether the problem was caused by Mods. This is called testing “vanilla”. To do this, exit the game (especially if you forgot to back up your Saves folder, don’t save first!). Go to Documents > Electronic Arts > The Sims 4. Drag your Mods folder to your desktop, or cut (NOT copy) and paste it. Now delete the file called localthumbcache. Restart Sims 4 and check to see if the problem is still there. If it’s not, it was probably caused by outdated mods. Either way, exit without saving. (Extra tip: Sometimes deleting a mod and localthumbcache isn’t enough to make a problem go away in a save. You can test a new save as well.)So, now you seem to have, somewhere in that Mods folder, an outdated mod that isn’t on the “Broken/Updated” list. Isolate the outdated mod. One way to do that is to do a “50-50” of your mods folder.How to “50-50” Your Mods FoldersTo figure out which game mod or piece of custom content is causing problems, you can test mods in increasingly small batches, systematically.Move your Mods folder to your desktop, and delete the localthumbcache file from Electronic Arts > The Sims 4. Make a new, empty folder there called Mods.Make a test copy of your original folder on your desktop. You'll use the test copy for the 50-50 so that you don't lose the organization of your original folder.Divide your folder up into batches. You don't have to start with two huge batches. You can start with more medium-sized batches, depending on what's comfortable for you. Name each batch something like "Untested 1" so you can keep track.Some mods depend on other mods to work. That might be a CC mesh or a mods like XML Injector. Make sure those dependencies are with the mods they depend on in eac batch. Otherwise, a mod might seem to not work, but it'll be not working because it's missing its dependency.Start with one batch. Copy it into Mods. Try it out. Is it all okay? Delete it from Mods, delete localthumbcache, and rename the desktop batch something like "All Clear 1".If a batch fails, divide it up. Somewhere in that failed batch is a problem. Make it into smaller batches and test those separately. Remember to keep track of what's already tested and what isn't, and remember to keep deleting localthumbcache.Retest the full folder. Delete the problem file from the original Mods folder, move that into place, and test it. With some luck, you've now found your problem.A 50-50 won't always solve a problem. It will, for example, miss issues that aren't a result of a game patch, like duplicate files, mod conflicts, missing dependencies, having mods you don't have required packs for, and wrong mod installation.An additional note about cooking mods: Some of these have very particular instructions for removing them. Consider removing your Saves and doing any 50-50 testing on a new save or new household if you weren't able to follow those instructions before mod testing.Still Stuck? This thread is here to help! You can also start a new thread in this forum. But please be descriptive: To help you, we need to know what symptoms you have in your game and we need to know what steps you’ve taken to try to isolate the problem.

The easiest way to tell if the problem is caused by a mod is to disable your mods in the game and make a new save (so your modded save doesn't lose all your cc). If the problem persists, then it's a bug, if it doesn't, then it's due to one (or more) of your mods.If it's a mod issue, the best way to test which one(s) is causing the problem is the 50/50 method where you move your mod folder out of the game completely, then add 50% off the mods into the game. Check to see if the problem occurs. If it doesn't, then you know those mods are safe. You'll then take them out and take 50% of the 2nd 50% and do the same.When the problem occurs, then you'll know it's one of those mods. Split that batch in half, rinse and repeat, until you've found the culprit.It's a tedious process, but it's really the only way that you can do it.I do recommend using Twisted Mexi's Better Exceptions mod which will let you know if any exceptions occur and which mods may be causing them. It's really helpful!

Hi @whyxgui ! You probably have an outdated copy of TOOL Mod, which was updated after yesterday's patch. You can also check the lists here for other outdated and updated mods: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-and-Mod-CC-Issues/Broken-Obsolete-and-Updated-Sims-4-Mods-1-101-Sept-26-2023-Game/m-p/12938280#M48214

[closed] Mods and CC Known Bugs and Issues: September 26th, 2023 Game Update

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luthienrising
Hero+
2 years ago
Some older reports indicated that at various points, Children didn't complete cooking tasks. The creator confirmed it's broken after the most recent patch, but without details.
waveyhamza
2 years ago
same thing happens for me only with my *adult mod* or one of the mods i got idk why i think its *adult mod*👮
luthienrising
Hero+
2 years ago
@waveyhamzaTo identify which specific mod is causing a problem, move all the other mods to another location (a folder on your desktop is an easy option), delete the file called localthumbcache, and try out in game. Don't save.
Loreafun
Rising Veteran
2 years ago
@luthienrising Could you please give a link to update of Immersive Social Bunny – plumlace? I can't find it, only for patrons.
(And the link at the and of your posts in Broken/Obsolete and Updated Sims 4 Mods: 1.101, Sept. 26, 2023 Game Update goes to Weird tumbnail topic.)
luthienrising
Hero+
2 years ago
@LoreafunYou can find the current public version on Curseforge. (And thank you! Not sure why that one is directing wrong, but I'll fix it)
farmgal123
2 years ago
Hi so I am pretty new to using mods. My sims are able to do it but they cant complete it. I am at a loss. I tried taking out the custom content beds out of the house because I read that some people had this happen and taking the beds out fixed it but that was not the case for me because they still wont complete their homework. Does anyone know of a mod that might be causing this or what could be causing this?
luthienrising
Hero+
2 years ago
HI @farmgal123 You'll need to do a 50-50, unfortunately, if the mod lists don't help identify known issues that you have there. This means organizing the files there into bite-size batches and testing one batch at a time (include files mods are dependent on, typically a core or injector mod). For each test, delete the file called localthumbcache, then put only that batch in Mods. If your game behaves as you expect, set that batch aside as "cleared" and delete localthumbcache again. If it doesn't behave as you expect, take out half the batch and see if you're closer to finding the culprit. Remember to delete localthumbcache each time. You'll find some 50-50 method tutorials online too. Once you isolate the file, you can go find out if there's an updated version.
If you've got a lot of content, consider batching by creator. You might also start with stuff you acquired more recently.
CeryleG
2 years ago
I have cleared the cache, repaired the game (multiple times), reinstalled everything, but I still get these issues with the blue squares in place of the kits / new ranch pack. (If you can't see the screenshot I have included, if I go to the "kit" page (before loading a particular game), in place of the last 6 kits that have been released I have a blue box. for the unowned kits, there is just the word "Un" instead of the full "Unowned" that other kits have. The owned kits have nothing under the blue box, same as the other owned kits. I have the same blue box for the Ranch expansion pack
In the game, in build mode, I can't select any of the (blue square) kits/pack in the drop-down list (the names don't even appear for me to select), but I know that in one household, I have bought the nectar making barrel/machine.
I only really realised what was happening when I wanted to get the greenhouse kit windows in a specific build, and couldn't find them
puzzlezaddict
Hero+
2 years ago
@CeryleG If you use any mods or custom content at all, please move the Mods folder to the desktop and delete localthumbcache.package. You don't need to save your progress; this is just for testing.
CeryleG
2 years ago
You're right - it seems that I have a mod that is blocking all of the recent packs/kits. I did originally remove the mods when I was first trying to test this out, but I'm sure I didn't see a change the first time round. I suppose now I need to look through all the mods to see what is doing it. When I find out, I'll put it up here for others' reference, too.

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