Disclaimer: This thread is not affiliated with EA. It's me as a community member trying to find out what else is going on Patch 1.91.205 fixes the groundhog day bug for mod users/removed mods that have been caused by Trendi. I'm personally unsure if that's all that was going on. Because of this, I like to start this thread to collect more info from people that still have the issue. Since I can't troubleshoot console, it's best if you use this thread if you are on console. [CURRENT ISSUE] Console - Time Reset / Progress Lost What is the Groundhog Day Bug ? The bug got it's name from the movie Groundhog Day from 1993. In the movie Bill Murray wakes up every morning to find out that it's the same day as yesterday. So this bug is basically about playing the same day over and over. The time and your progress resets. There have been reports of several symptoms The game doesn't save at all and when reloading, it's just all back to when you last saved. Travelling/Going to CAS resets your progress to the day you started Most progress is saved but some things like Skill/Relationships/... aren't. Progress is saved but the time reverts. An older issue that could be related is this: [OPEN] Houses/Lots disappear Rules in this thread Since my main goal is to get to the bottom of the issue and see if it's all the same or just different causes that all need to be fixed, I need this thread to be to the point and you need to proved the information asked. Posts that don't follow these will be moved out. There will be absolutely NO ranting/rudeness in this thread. I'm trying to help. If you don't like that, post somewhere else. Provide all the information asked in this first post. Test your game on a vanilla game (no MCCC vanilla but game vanilla). See second post to find out what that means. Don't say I have the same problem. Give details what you see in your game, even if it is repetitive. Your game must be updated to 1.91.205/1.64 Information to provide Please c/p the questions below to your post and answer them in a structured manner. Helps a lot. Thanks. Which of these Symptoms are you seeing ? (multiple answer possible) Time/Progress resets to when I last save every time I My Sims aged up, but when going to CAS or reloading they are their old age group again Building something and leaving the game after save and exit reverts to old build Sims lose other progress (relationships/skill progress/…) Werewolves lose all points Save Error 532 when trying to save the game Other:__________________ On which occasions does the bug happen ? (multiple answer possible) Travel Go to CAS Save and reload the game Go to Household Manager What Platform do you have the bug on ? (multiple answer possible) PC Mac Xbox Playstation Does the bug also occur if you test a fresh new save with different Sims ? Yes No Do you own HSY Yes Yes, but disabled No Does the bug go away if you disable/uninstall HSY ? Yes No Are you using mods/cc in your game ? Yes Never used any on that save No, I play on console Which of these Mods are you using (multiple answer possible) Adult Mod MCCC Custom CAS Parts (clothing, shoes, hats, accessory, ...) Other Custom Content Other Mods Where do you usually get your mods from (multiple answer possible) Directly from the creator Through a 3rd party site Through Friends Through Influencers Addition Info Anything else that you find important.

Which of these Symptoms are you seeing ? Time/Progress resets to when I last save every time I use manage worlds or reopen the game. My Sims aged up, but when going to CAS or reloading they are their old age group again Building something and leaving the game after save and exit reverts to old build Sims lose other progress (relationships/skill progress/…) On which occasions does the bug happen ? Go to CAS Save and reload the game Go to Household Manager What Platform do you have the bug on ? PC Does the bug also occur if you test a fresh new save with different Sims ? Yes Do you own HSY Yes Does the bug go away if you disable/uninstall HSY ? Yes, it did last time, but I reinstalled it as the new patch claims to have fixed the issue but it started happening again after I did so. Are you using mods/cc in your game ? Yes Which of these Mods are you using Adult Mod Custom CAS Parts (clothing, shoes, hats, accessory, ...) Other Custom Content Other Mods (Pandasama childbirth mod) Where do you usually get your mods from Directly from the creator Addition Info I uninstalled HSY and the issue seemed to stop, but after hearing about the new patch I reinstalled it, hoping the issue would be resolved but unfortunately it continued. I will probably just have to remove HSY again but it's such a hassle. Just letting people know that the patch DOES NOT fix it, at least in my case. CM EDIT: Do not mention 18+ Mods.

How to test your save on fresh folder to make it vanilla It is really important to that you remove all mods/cc to see if you have the issue without mods as well. To do so, renaming the user folder is the easiest approach. You won't loose any progress this way cause everything is still there in your old folder. Close the game Find your user folder in Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 Rename that folder to Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4_OLD Start the game. A new user folder will be created and everything is back to the way it was when you first played. All your options will be reset and your saves will be gone. Start a new save and test if the bug occurs Go to Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4_OLD\Saves and copy all your save games over to the new folder Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4. Make sure to copy and not move. Test the save you have issues with. How to revert your old state you had before testing vanilla Close the game Delete the folder Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 (this will make you loose everything you tested on the vanilla state) Rename Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4_OLD to Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 Start the game. You should now have everything back.

@amandafaery Could you please answer all the questions in post one in a more structured matter ? It would help.Thanks. just copy/past the questions and add your answers. I think I tested your save right and wasn't able to duplicate. EDIT: Did you ever try the thing I asked here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/CURRENT-ISSUE-Unmodded-PC-Time-Reset-Progress-Lost/m-p/11788981#M230039 ?

@amandafaery Did you also monitor what happens in your scratch folder when you travel ?

@amandafaery So the scratch folder updates but not the actual save Sorry if I asked before but you did also try save as, right ? Do you see a new save file created when you try that (in the file system)

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crinrict

Hero+

3 years ago

Groundhog Day - Aftermath Patch 1.91.205 - Read first post before posting

Disclaimer: This thread is not affiliated with EA. It's me as a community member trying to find out what else is going on

Patch 1.91.205 fixes the groundhog day bug for mod users/removed mods that have been caused by Trendi. I'm personally unsure if that's all that was going on.

Because of this, I like to start this thread to collect more info from people that still have the issue.

Since I can't troubleshoot console, it's best if you use this thread if you are on console. [CURRENT ISSUE] Console - Time Reset / Progress Lost

What is the Groundhog Day Bug ?

The bug got it's name from the movie Groundhog Day from 1993. In the movie Bill Murray wakes up every morning to find out that it's the same day as yesterday. So this bug is basically about playing the same day over and over. The time and your progress resets.

There have been reports of several symptoms

The game doesn't save at all and when reloading, it's just all back to when you last saved.
Travelling/Going to CAS resets your progress to the day you started
Most progress is saved but some things like Skill/Relationships/... aren't.
Progress is saved but the time reverts.

An older issue that could be related is this: [OPEN] Houses/Lots disappear

Rules in this thread

Since my main goal is to get to the bottom of the issue and see if it's all the same or just different causes that all need to be fixed, I need this thread to be to the point and you need to proved the information asked. Posts that don't follow these will be moved out.

There will be absolutely NO ranting/rudeness in this thread. I'm trying to help. If you don't like that, post somewhere else.
Provide all the information asked in this first post.
Test your game on a vanilla game (no MCCC vanilla but game vanilla). See second post to find out what that means.
Don't say I have the same problem. Give details what you see in your game, even if it is repetitive.
Your game must be updated to 1.91.205/1.64

Information to provide

Please c/p the questions below to your post and answer them in a structured manner. Helps a lot. Thanks.

Which of these Symptoms are you seeing ? (multiple answer possible)

Time/Progress resets to when I last save every time I
My Sims aged up, but when going to CAS or reloading they are their old age group again
Building something and leaving the game after save and exit reverts to old build
Sims lose other progress (relationships/skill progress/…)
Werewolves lose all points
Save Error 532 when trying to save the game
Other:__________________

On which occasions does the bug happen ? (multiple answer possible)

Travel
Go to CAS
Save and reload the game
Go to Household Manager

What Platform do you have the bug on ? (multiple answer possible)

PC
Mac
Xbox
Playstation

Does the bug also occur if you test a fresh new save with different Sims ?

Do you own HSY

Yes
Yes, but disabled
No

Does the bug go away if you disable/uninstall HSY ?

Are you using mods/cc in your game ?

Yes
Never used any on that save
No, I play on console

Which of these Mods are you using (multiple answer possible)

Adult Mod
MCCC
Custom CAS Parts (clothing, shoes, hats, accessory, ...)
Other Custom Content
Other Mods

Where do you usually get your mods from (multiple answer possible)

Directly from the creator
Through a 3rd party site
Through Friends
Through Influencers

Addition Info

Anything else that you find important.

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crinrict
Hero+
3 years ago
How to test your save on fresh folder to make it vanilla

It is really important to that you remove all mods/cc to see if you have the issue without mods as well. To do so, renaming the user folder is the easiest approach. You won't loose any progress this way cause everything is still there in your old folder.

Close the game

Find your user folder in Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4

Rename that folder to Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4_OLD

Start the game. A new user folder will be created and everything is back to the way it was when you first played. All your options will be reset and your saves will be gone.

Start a new save and test if the bug occurs

Go to Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4_OLD\Saves and copy all your save games over to the new folder Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4. Make sure to copy and not move.

Test the save you have issues with.

How to revert your old state you had before testing vanilla

Close the game

Delete the folder Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 (this will make you loose everything you tested on the vanilla state)

Rename Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4_OLD to Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4

Start the game. You should now have everything back.
amandafaery
Seasoned Rookie
3 years ago
Hi! I have 0 mods and cc in my game. I started a fresh save (starts at 8 am) and saved at 12 pm. However, it says I saved at 3 pm? I'm still experiencing this bug!
The symptoms I see for my game is time/progress resets and losing skills and relationships.
This bug only happens when saving. Traveling and exiting CAS do noy revert time.
I only have The Sims 4 on PC so that is the only platform this bug occurs on for me.
This bug continues to occur even on new saves. Both old and new saves are affected.
I do own HSY. I disabled it but the bug still occurred so I reenabled it.
I am not using mods or cc in my game.
This bug randomly started happening on August 30th. I don't remember changing anything different or installing any new mods. It's possible that I had and I forgot but otherwise nothing noteworthy happened. The bug just started occurring when I saved.
crinrict
Hero+
3 years ago
@amandafaery Could you please answer all the questions in post one in a more structured matter ? It would help.Thanks.

just copy/past the questions and add your answers.

I think I tested your save right and wasn't able to duplicate.

EDIT: Did you ever try the thing I asked here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/CURRENT-ISSUE-Unmodded-PC-Time-Reset-Progress-Lost/m-p/11788981#M230039 ?
amandafaery
Seasoned Rookie
3 years ago
@crinrict Sorry about the poor formatting! I'll reorganize my responses.

Also, I had tried the suggestion you suggested on the old forum and disabling HSY did nothing. The bug still occurred.

Traveling and going into CAS does NOT trigger going back in time. Only saving does.
crinrict
Hero+
3 years ago
@amandafaery Did you also monitor what happens in your scratch folder when you travel ?
amandafaery
Seasoned Rookie
3 years ago
@crinrict When I travel, my scratch folder files do change their date/time. For example, I created my new save at 3:16 pm. When I travel, it updates to 3:18 pm (current time at the moment).
crinrict
Hero+
3 years ago
@amandafaery So the scratch folder updates but not the actual save

Sorry if I asked before but you did also try save as, right ? Do you see a new save file created when you try that (in the file system)
amandafaery
Seasoned Rookie
3 years ago
@crinrict No worries! Yes, I do use "save as" but it doesn't work. Also, yes, a new save file creates but it changes to a random time because of the bug.
crinrict
Hero+
3 years ago
@amandafaery the time stamp of the file or the time in the game ?

Would you mind disabling all the packs and just try base game

Here's the line you need to copy for that (including that - before disable):

-disablepacks:EP01,EP02,EP03,EP04,EP05,EP06,EP07,EP08,EP09,EP10,EP11,EP12,GP01,GP02,GP03,GP04,GP05,GP06,GP07,GP08,GP09,GP10,GP11,GP12,SP01,SP02,SP03,SP04,SP05,SP06,SP07,SP08,SP09,SP10,SP11,SP12,SP13,SP14,SP15,SP16,SP17,SP18,SP20,SP21,SP22,SP23,SP24,SP25,SP26,SP28,SP29,SP30,SP31,SP32,SP33,SP34

It doesn't matter, if you don't own one of the packs you disable

I'm going to call it a night as it's getting late here. Shall be back in the morning.
amandafaery
Seasoned Rookie
3 years ago
@crinrict I disabled all packs and even with just the base game, the bug still happens. Since you're unable to recreate what's happening, it definitely has to be something in my files. I've done a fresh reinstall though and had deleted all of my old files so I'm so confused.

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