This is rather complicated, so I'm unable to determine if it was reported before. I know there have been quite a few soulmate aspiration bugs. This is the scenario:I deleted the entire contents of the \Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 folder except "Tray", in order to get a completely clean game.I created a character using one of my saved templates and gave him the soulmate aspiration. This character had this aspiration in another game.On starting the game, the first goal to have a boyfriend/girlfriend is already checked, even though he has no social connections yet and the game is completely new.Unless there are more game folders I can delete, it appears that this is embedded in the character's template now.Additional info:After a few tests, I have confirmed the following:A generically created character does not have this issue.An older version of the same character template as above does not have this issue.How the bug most likely occurred:It is confusing as to why a managed household cannot be saved to a template. When saving a managed household, it says "saved to library" but then the family does not appear in the F4 folder under "My Library".I got around this by saving a template via the "Home" tab of F4, on the right-hand side where it says "trending hashtags" and shows recently saved managed households. I would have saved the family and then removed members to create individual templates afterwards. This apparently led to in-game data being permanently retained in the base templates of those characters. This probably qualifies as a bug at this point.

If you save a sim from your game, then yes, some data will be saved with him. I'm unsure what those are in detail but I think skills are saved like this. Not sure about the traits so played Sims don't really qualify as new Sims. Here's some info what they retail: http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/867895/do-sims-saved-to-the-gallery-retain-their-skills Relationships should get lost though so there might be an issue with the relationships (there's a thread somewhere in the bug forum where a Sim from the gallery had a weird family tree being married to someone that didn't exist. Could be the same issue. I'm a bit unsure what you mean by F4 folder ? Are you talking about shortcut to open the gallery ? Are you using custom content in your game ? If so, have you checked if the Sims appear if you include custom content. You should be able to save your stuff to the library through the household manager and then it shows under library (but those played Sims aren't 'fresh' like if you created them in CAS and then uploaded to your library/gallery)

@lnpx wrote: Now the game is saying that the character was created with custom content when it wasn't. It's a clean install with all mods disabled. I suspect one issue is that I switched between two user accounts on my computer when I was playing the game and there may be residual files from one or the other account. I can't see any other reason that this content is persisting like it is. It makes no sense. That would be the bug I was talking about earlier.

There is a bug atm where households are marked as containing cc when they are not, so that's why I asked if you checked if they appear if you include cc with the filter. When you save it, it should appear in the library but because of the bug, it might not unless you have the cc filter on. Could you maybe post some pictures of what you are seeing ? I think that would be helpful.

Re the picture: That looks like the line highlight-line that happens when you are mousing over the sim to quick select the pants/skirts tab in CAS.Normally you wouldn't see it because of 3 reasons.1) it only happens when you mouse over the sim while the clothing selection & accessories tab is open, not in the features/body editing tab.2) normally you'd be choosing clothes in the tab rather than mousing over the sims and highlighting them3) if your sim is wearing a top which covers the midriff then the line is hidden by said top, and so there's a very limited set of instances where you'd see the sharp highlight line across the middleHowever if you aren't highlighting/mousing over the sim and that line showing up, then it would definitely be odd.

Maybe there's another issue I should be addressing first. When I save a managed household in-game it gives the message "saved to my library", but it isn't saved under "My Library" in the gallery.When creating a new family, "My library" does not contain any of my managed households. Is this the expected behaviour?This is the assumption I have been making based on the above:Essentially there are 2 libraries. There's one library that contains the blank templates which are used to create a new family and there's the library of managed households which are only accessible within the game. The families in-game retain game information, as you said. What I'm talking about is an unintentional cross-over between the two.When creating a totally new family, anything you use from "My Library" should be without any existing game data. It is, after all, a "new" family. Having programming and testing experience, I see this as an obvious bug, but explaining why it is is complicated. If you read the additional information, it should be clear how the bug occurred.When I say a completely clean game, it is with all mods and scripting turned off. Deleting everything in the game data folder leads to a new game state.

[Bug] Game data carried in character template

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PurplesShade
10 years ago
Re the picture: That looks like the line highlight-line that happens when you are mousing over the sim to quick select the pants/skirts tab in CAS.
Normally you wouldn't see it because of 3 reasons.
1) it only happens when you mouse over the sim while the clothing selection & accessories tab is open, not in the features/body editing tab.
2) normally you'd be choosing clothes in the tab rather than mousing over the sims and highlighting them
3) if your sim is wearing a top which covers the midriff then the line is hidden by said top, and so there's a very limited set of instances where you'd see the sharp highlight line across the middle

However if you aren't highlighting/mousing over the sim and that line showing up, then it would definitely be odd.
lnpx
10 years ago
PurplesShade wrote:
Re the picture: That looks like the line highlight-line that happens when you are mousing over the sim to quick select the pants/skirts tab in CAS.
Normally you wouldn't see it because of 3 reasons.
1) it only happens when you mouse over the sim while the clothing selection & accessories tab is open, not in the features/body editing tab.
2) normally you'd be choosing clothes in the tab rather than mousing over the sims and highlighting them
3) if your sim is wearing a top which covers the midriff then the line is hidden by said top, and so there's a very limited set of instances where you'd see the sharp highlight line across the middle

However if you aren't highlighting/mousing over the sim and that line showing up, then it would definitely be odd.

OK, thanks for letting me know. I was just trying to determine if that behaviour was the result of a mod, but if it is normal to see when mousing over the character (with no mods installed), it clears up that question.
lnpx
10 years ago
@crinrict wrote:
@lnpx wrote:
Now the game is saying that the character was created with custom content when it wasn't. It's a clean install with all mods disabled. I suspect one issue is that I switched between two user accounts on my computer when I was playing the game and there may be residual files from one or the other account. I can't see any other reason that this content is persisting like it is. It makes no sense.
That would be the bug I was talking about earlier.
Well that completely sucks since I like saving my characters. I bet it's related to the Origin cloud syncing thing.
lnpx
10 years ago
@crinrict wrote:
There is a bug atm where households are marked as containing cc when they are not, so that's why I asked if you checked if they appear if you include cc with the filter.
When you save it, it should appear in the library but because of the bug, it might not unless you have the cc filter on.
Could you maybe post some pictures of what you are seeing ? I think that would be helpful.
Is there a link for this bug? I can't save the household no matter what I do. Just to summarize what I have done: I have a clean install, all caches etc were deleted, no previous content is in the game (no previous tray), a mod has never been added to this install and mods & scripts are disabled.
Just after going to work as a scientist the first time, and wearing the scientist outfit at home, I opened up CAS using testing cheats and tried to save the character. That's when the modded content label first appeared. However, I can't save the character at all. Mods have been disabled the whole time.
crinrict
Hero+
10 years ago
Here's the bug thread on it: http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4-Bug-Reports/TO-ADD-OPEN-Sims-uploaded-to-the-gallery-wrongly-marked-as/td-p/5144045/jump-to/first-unread-message
Anonymous
10 years ago
Approved
This isn't a bug and character data has always been written into bin items so that families and lots can be migrated into new neighborhoods without losing progress. The tray directory in The Sims 4 is the new 'family bin' from previous versions and the functionality is identical. The only way to reset the household is to create a new one with your original exports (the game auto-exports when characters are created)
lnpx
10 years ago
@ForestNinja0 wrote:
This isn't a bug and character data has always been written into bin items so that families and lots can be migrated into new neighborhoods without losing progress. The tray directory in The Sims 4 is the new 'family bin' from previous versions and the functionality is identical. The only way to reset the household is to create a new one with your original exports (the game auto-exports when characters are created)
It wasn't an in-game save I was using, although what I was using is lost to me now. It got pretty convoluted what I created at what point when I couldn't do saves from in-game. There is a bug, although it may be smaller than what I was experiencing. When I create a character with certain traits, and later create another character from that initial one with different traits, it seems to retain a reference to at least one trait, even though it's not there anymore. My first character had Genius and the second one didn't, but the second one kept getting the not-enough-challenge moodlet from being a genius, which he wasn't.
I'm not familiar enough with S3 to remember how it worked, but I do understand now how the saves are supposed to work. I didn't when I posted this as I had never been able to save a family in-game (due to the other bug mentioned).
lnpx
10 years ago
@crinrict wrote:
Here's the bug thread on it: http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4-Bug-Reports/TO-ADD-OPEN-Sims-uploaded-to-the-gallery-wrongly-marked-as/td-p/5144045/jump-to/first-unread-message
Thanks. I'm using a workaround to save the character data.
Would you know if they already know that it is the career clothing causing this?
crinrict
Hero+
10 years ago
It is ? So it has nothing to do with the skills ?

I don't know if they know.

Can you add that info to the thread I linked ?

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