Clarification please

Which world are we talking about?

"EE_Elephterion;c-2059858" wrote:
Which world are we talking about?

Geza doesn't want the Alliance timers to reset, but apparently having trouble understanding the difference between current policy as explained to him repeatedly and how to state a policy change request.

Performing a sector jump should allow players to change sectors and nothing else. Your team has refused to considered such a change for years and it's been a "get out of jail" card since beta. Players have been using this loophole extensively on PVP focused worlds. Player-A will entice the enemy (Player B ) to spend 2,000cp blowing up all of Player A's bases. Player A will then sector and immediately begin attacking Player C.

I (and most of the PVP community) don't believe a player should be allowed to sector so long as they are under alliance penalty.

"Vedim88;c-2059873" wrote:
> @geza25973 said:
> @methuselah, you are totally missing the point

No I totally get it but you are asking two different questions

1) Your original question which was how did he do it which Soxie answered.
2) Then once you found out how, why is that how it works?

Soxie answered the first question, only the devs can answer the second.

Well, the reason I'm asking is because I'd like to know how far the player moved with the sector jump. And are we talking about the defeated player taking revenge on his destroyed within the 2h or having the ability to attack in general?

"EE_Elephterion;c-2059919" wrote:
Well, the reason I'm asking is because I'd like to know how far the player moved with the sector jump. And are we talking about the defeated player taking revenge on his destroyed within the 2h or having the ability to attack in general?

How far a player moves is unrelated to this discussion and is working perfectly. The equation has remained unchanged and not in question.

We're talking about Player A being able to attack in general. Reread my example. Player A can attack anyone they want after they perform a sector jump. That in itself isn't even the debate, the real problem is that no player should be able to perform a sector jump if;
a) any of their bases are under alliance penalty.
b) during combat or a lock down timer

I'll give another example, because we've actually done this several times;

I target an enemy player in sector A. I'm in sector B and I calculate the ability to land directly on top of my target in sector A. I sector to B, land on my enemy target and immediately begin decimating all 30 of their bases. My enemy logs into the game and sectors away with half his bases destroyed AND DURING COMBAT. Said enemy player is now shielded for 24hrs and fully spawned, heals a few of their bases and immediately begins attacking my alliance with no alliance penalties on ANY of their bases.

I agree with @Soixie @EE_Elephterion , in my circumstance, i killed the majority of his bases, and within an 2 hour time frame of him being killed, he did a sector jump, landed right beside another alliance member of ours attacked and took over a POI from his base that i killed only 2 hours before hand, am not sure how much more clear i can be. How is that at all possible as once a base is defeated it can't attack until after the 24 hours, but it seems as @Soixie says this gets wiped out when a sector jump is performed. I try and break it down so there is no confusion on what am asking:

1) Enemy bases killed
2) Enemy 2 hours later from bases being killed, sector jumps
3) Enemy landed beside another alliance member and POI
4) Enemy attacks and takes over an POI with his previously killed base that was only destroyed 2 hours earlier
5) Why does a sector a jump allow a killed base to attack before the 24 hour period has lapsed?

@Soixie i do not fail to understand, i know how sector jumps work, maybe you should re-read what am asking for, hopefully the simple explanation above, can get my point across.

Thanks for clarifying the situation at hand. I doubt there will be a change in time for WCS but we'll see if there's some change possible.

"geza25973;c-2059928" wrote:

@Soixie i do not fail to understand, i know how sector jumps work, maybe you should re-read what am asking for, hopefully the simple explanation above, can get my point across.

You keep asking the same question repeatedly, that have already been answered in this thread. The shape of the cast iron skillet is irrelevant, you can ask the question 500 different ways and the skillet is still black. Failing to believe it doesn't change the facts.

5) Why does a sector a jump allow a killed base to attack before the 24 hour period has lapsed?
^^^^ for the 1,000th time, because it's allowed. Sector jumping removes the cool down from all bases. Any damaged bases can simply be healed instantly through selling and rebuilding. There are no limitations from a PVP perspective for players utilizing this get out of jail free card. Piss, moan, cry, loophole, cheat, feature, whatever, it is what it is and it is what was originally coded and the current nature of PVP.



@EE_Elephterion - I'm pretty sure ppl want to be able to attack the millisecond after they sector, which is fine. Any change to this will introduce new problems. For PVP focused worlds, part of the excitement is in fact "hunting" players in other sectors by landing on them and immediately killing them. The issue at hand is the "defender" getting attacked - they should not be able to sector during combat, while they are experiencing combat cool down (from base destroyed) and/or if any of their bases are within the "cool down timer". To expand upon this, if some fool keeps dropping their base to be destroyed multiple times and their "cool down timer" is 7 days, too bad. They wait 7 days until their cool down timer for their one base is gone before they can sector.

Allowing players to "escape" is the "loophole".

Thank you for considering a fix.

My 2 cents worth - nothing needs changing. The rules are the way they are, leave them as they are.