Hello Commanders, this is your chance to contribute your ideas for the next Firestorm world! Map layout, ruleset, Forgotten attacks, morale system and POI Bonus – tell us what settings you would like to see! (or give XP to the ideas that you like) We are looking forward to your suggestions. 🙂 Kalyn (Envision Entertainment Dev Team)

First of all: good to see that you ask the active community for suggestions! Thx for that.I´m fine with everything: different poi bonuses, different maps, bubble only for one day, players are only allowed to shoot center once and so on. Different/new settings are good for the game.But the most important detail is -> we need PVP back in the game. Atm its only farming + shooting some bases + and one short war. Thats it. Most players are bored of that.So it would be nice if you guys could offer an incentive for more PVP at FS23. PVP has to be an advantage (if you win) for every player - at the moment its an disadvanatge.One general suggestion and already often mentioned: more servers! Waiting 2 month or more for the start of a new server is to long.

I don't know if many agree but....A fast artillery calibration timer changes the pvp dynamic a bit.The latest Firestorm had a much faster timer but an even faster one will make defensive artillery an offensive weapon in a sense if used in multiplayer pvp.

@gamerdruid correct - one fortress kill and the server is finished

Thanks for picking our thoughts. It´s very much appreciated and brings hope.I belive that there are a bunch of players just waiting for reasons to come back. How about a complete world reset after fortress being destroyed? Meaning that everyone is sent back to lvl 1 starting bases with bubbles in the outskirts. Preferrably with restrictions for the winning players (shouldn´t really be needed since they already won, but who knows..), and then a new race to the middle to win 2nd badge starts. Only difference from original start of server is that the winning players and their alliance now appear on the scoreboard, and the POIs and the forgotten bases are freshly randomized. I believe that a complete reset limits the use of sister alliances since post fortress destruction dictatorship will be gone. It also reduces endless farming, it kind of adresses the issue with more servers needed since players know that a reset is coming and can therefore just wait out the fortress killing process without doing anything. And then get a new fresh try to get to middle and destroy the fortress. Hell, it might even feel like a victory even thou it is for 2nd or lower badges. This might give new hope and spark to many players, even the less active or less compatitive players might really enjoy fighting for the lower badges since more and more badged players will be leaving the server, making the competition more fair and the game more enjoyable for the remaining players. Some players might even aim to play a server a little bit later, after an alliance full of exotic badges has conquered and left. Just to get a more fair competition and the most fun out of it. With that said, frequent new servers are more than welcome for all players aiming for 1st badge. In NHL for example, you dont see all the best players in the same team. Why? Because it ruins the game. NHL introduced the salary cap to enhance the competetiveness, and on top of that puts the most promising rookies in the previous seasons worst performing teams, to even out the competition further. Perhaps we can learn something from this? I think that quite the opposite has been going on here for some time now, but I don´t really know how to address it.. Im just putting it out there. Can some kind of cap help us enhance the competetiveness? New settings require new thinking to stay on top which is a great way to make this game even more addictive, challenging and fun. Here are some ideas that came to my mind: 1. REPAIR TIME BUNDLES:a: Remove them (same as WCS setting).b: Let it cost supply points to use and can be bought separately for TA funds, just like command points. 2. POI:a: Make the multiplier significantly lower, like 1/10th of current levels or so.b: Have all POI bonuses in percentage, meaning also tib, cry and power to rethink base setup.c: Add a POI for creditsd: Bubbles on bases pops immediately if holding POIs, exception might be starting bubble. 3. UNITS:a: Add rocketeers (flying infantry) b: Add more upgrades, perhaps both tier 1 and tier 2, and with choices between different upgrades.c: Add air units to defense, for example rocketeers and helicopters. 4. RESOURCES:a: 50% of base loot goes to the killing player/s, 50% is divided equally between alliance members (starting after a week or so when alliances are more solid).This is to even out the resources gathered from difficult bases vs cherries, It further encorages cheering for your teammates killing bases, it evens out the alliance members scores a little, and it might make more players feel more useful to the team. 5. BASE:a: Add possibility to move one field (for example a tib field) in the base area. At a credit, rp, and move recovery cost.b: Add possibility to research upgrades for base builings. 6. STATS:a: Add biggest base score to player statsb: Add 5 biggest base scores to alliance statsb: Add average base killing level to player stats 7. WORLD SETTINGS:a. A world running at twice the normal speed.d. Alliance cap of 25 players (with smaller or no hubs in the centre) to spread out players into more alliances.e. Alliance cap of 1 or 2 players (can be used as a single player adventure with one or two accounts, or with a friend). No hubs. Just dig, grow, pvp, and kill the fortress when you reach it.f. Maximum base amount 5. Too many bases are mostly annoying to maintain. Focus on more upgrades instead.g. Starting sector random and relocation not possible until a week or so after server start, just to mix teams up more, and limit the use of multiple accounts.h. Country flags added to player info and shown in rankingsi. Randomize the RP and credit cost (within limits) for units, upgrades and new bases to perhaps force rethinking of strategies. In time, maybe some of our ideas can grow into something useful. Best regardsViking

I'll start this off with two being tested on the PTE now - a very large spread of the hubs with the revenge attack covering out to the hubs and a large amount of water, even more than the current level on the existing PTE which is an increase on normal worlds.

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13 Replies

gamerdruid
Hero+
2 years ago
I'll start this off with two being tested on the PTE now - a very large spread of the hubs with the revenge attack covering out to the hubs and a large amount of water, even more than the current level on the existing PTE which is an increase on normal worlds.
Eldorado501
Rising Traveler
2 years ago
First of all: good to see that you ask the active community for suggestions! Thx for that.
I´m fine with everything: different poi bonuses, different maps, bubble only for one day, players are only allowed to shoot center once and so on. Different/new settings are good for the game.
But the most important detail is -> we need PVP back in the game. Atm its only farming + shooting some bases + and one short war. Thats it. Most players are bored of that.
So it would be nice if you guys could offer an incentive for more PVP at FS23. PVP has to be an advantage (if you win) for every player - at the moment its an disadvanatge.
One general suggestion and already often mentioned: more servers! Waiting 2 month or more for the start of a new server is to long.
Tullie2
2 years ago
Firestorm 23 is a great server with nice settings which should be retained for F24. speed aspect is so welcomed. Make map abit bigger?
Allow a greater reward for PVP if possible!! (Then the true fun returns) as stated already
Teleport the fort killing alliance right back to the very 1st tier of the sector, whichever sector they are in once the fort is killed.
Allow each alliance Cic one nuke option which would take out a selected area,i.e 10x10 or 15x15 steps, once the alliance has 50% of member hit the midway mark of server map together. (crazy option but hey ho 🙂
If possible make every one that starts the server have a completely different starting layout from each other. NO ONE starts with the same layout as anyone else. So a true lottery :D
I hope we get this games MOJO back again.
Woop Woop!!
merloer114
2 years ago
I don't know if many agree but....
A fast artillery calibration timer changes the pvp dynamic a bit.
The latest Firestorm had a much faster timer but an even faster one will make defensive artillery an offensive weapon in a sense if used in multiplayer pvp.
Palmendieb
New Novice
2 years ago
-small world 300x300, max. forgotten base Level 50, Start with Level 10 bases
-no pois
-large spread of the hubs
-sat Codes are not needed to conquer hubs, at forgottenbase Level 20 are the Hubs,
-now the special thing, the Hubs has different base Level, 1 base Level 10, 1 base Level 15 and so on, this requires that people have to Split up or Jump back, you also need to have taken every hub in your detention ( 5 hubs with 8 people each)
-Short cooldowns like F23
-more attack and Deff Units
-Research cost only half as much or less in general
-forgotten attacks deactivated, Moral deactivated
-to prevent more than 50 people from joining together and founding wings or Alliance Partners there will be only one Center (yes that doesn‘t 100% prevent people from getting together answays But i cant thing of and other way at the Moment, except that and relying on all people that they do Not come together….
Soooooo in my opinion, this could lead to more pvp on the worlds
Eldorado501
Rising Traveler
2 years ago
I like the general idea from @Palmendieb that there is only one center!
Lets take a look at Tib61 -> 3 Ally´s close side by side for a long time. Then there is war only for 2-3 days between two of them.
After that the 3rd Ally decides to make an agreement with the winner for rank Nr. 2. Now the wings are farming 3-5 month for center Nr.3+4.
Thats boring for everybody! Almost nobody is interested in only shooting camps for month. More and more people are only online for a few minutes a day (best case).
Guess you guys @EE_kalyn and Co. can see that behaviour by looking at the number of funds everybody is spending.
If there is only one center all guys at Tib61 would have some good weeks with base shooting/farming + a nice big war at center.
Problem with that example -> nobody from these 3 Ally´s will start PVP early because its a big disadvantage (as often mentioned). PVP most of the time is only happening at the center.
We need to find a way to reward players for PVP. I know thats difficult because of the topic "multifarming".
Perhaps is possible to realize that you only get full ressources by killing a Top 150 Account - something like that. Only an idea.
gamerdruid
Hero+
2 years ago
@Eldorado501When you are referring to 'one centre' I assume you mean only one Fortress kill badge. Is that what you mean?
EDIT: Typo corrected.
Eldorado501
Rising Traveler
2 years ago
@gamerdruid correct - one fortress kill and the server is finished
xxxVikingxxx
2 years ago
Thanks for picking our thoughts. It´s very much appreciated and brings hope.
I belive that there are a bunch of players just waiting for reasons to come back.

How about a complete world reset after fortress being destroyed? Meaning that everyone is sent back to lvl 1 starting bases with bubbles in the outskirts. Preferrably with restrictions for the winning players (shouldn´t really be needed since they already won, but who knows..), and then a new race to the middle to win 2nd badge starts. Only difference from original start of server is that the winning players and their alliance now appear on the scoreboard, and the POIs and the forgotten bases are freshly randomized.

I believe that a complete reset limits the use of sister alliances since post fortress destruction dictatorship will be gone. It also reduces endless farming, it kind of adresses the issue with more servers needed since players know that a reset is coming and can therefore just wait out the fortress killing process without doing anything. And then get a new fresh try to get to middle and destroy the fortress. Hell, it might even feel like a victory even thou it is for 2nd or lower badges.
This might give new hope and spark to many players, even the less active or less compatitive players might really enjoy fighting for the lower badges since more and more badged players will be leaving the server, making the competition more fair and the game more enjoyable for the remaining players.

Some players might even aim to play a server a little bit later, after an alliance full of exotic badges has conquered and left. Just to get a more fair competition and the most fun out of it.

With that said, frequent new servers are more than welcome for all players aiming for 1st badge.

In NHL for example, you dont see all the best players in the same team. Why? Because it ruins the game. NHL introduced the salary cap to enhance the competetiveness, and on top of that puts the most promising rookies in the previous seasons worst performing teams, to even out the competition further.
Perhaps we can learn something from this?

I think that quite the opposite has been going on here for some time now, but I don´t really know how to address it.. Im just putting it out there.
Can some kind of cap help us enhance the competetiveness?

New settings require new thinking to stay on top which is a great way to make this game even more addictive, challenging and fun.
Here are some ideas that came to my mind:

1. REPAIR TIME BUNDLES:
a: Remove them (same as WCS setting).
b: Let it cost supply points to use and can be bought separately for TA funds, just like command points.

2. POI:
a: Make the multiplier significantly lower, like 1/10th of current levels or so.
b: Have all POI bonuses in percentage, meaning also tib, cry and power to rethink base setup.
c: Add a POI for credits
d: Bubbles on bases pops immediately if holding POIs, exception might be starting bubble.

3. UNITS:
a: Add rocketeers (flying infantry)
b: Add more upgrades, perhaps both tier 1 and tier 2, and with choices between different upgrades.
c: Add air units to defense, for example rocketeers and helicopters.

4. RESOURCES:
a: 50% of base loot goes to the killing player/s, 50% is divided equally between alliance members (starting after a week or so when alliances are more solid).
This is to even out the resources gathered from difficult bases vs cherries, It further encorages cheering for your teammates killing bases, it evens out the alliance members scores a little, and it might make more players feel more useful to the team.

5. BASE:
a: Add possibility to move one field (for example a tib field) in the base area. At a credit, rp, and move recovery cost.
b: Add possibility to research upgrades for base builings.

6. STATS:
a: Add biggest base score to player stats
b: Add 5 biggest base scores to alliance stats
b: Add average base killing level to player stats

7. WORLD SETTINGS:
a. A world running at twice the normal speed.
d. Alliance cap of 25 players (with smaller or no hubs in the centre) to spread out players into more alliances.
e. Alliance cap of 1 or 2 players (can be used as a single player adventure with one or two accounts, or with a friend). No hubs. Just dig, grow, pvp, and kill the fortress when you reach it.
f. Maximum base amount 5. Too many bases are mostly annoying to maintain. Focus on more upgrades instead.
g. Starting sector random and relocation not possible until a week or so after server start, just to mix teams up more, and limit the use of multiple accounts.
h. Country flags added to player info and shown in rankings
i. Randomize the RP and credit cost (within limits) for units, upgrades and new bases to perhaps force rethinking of strategies.

In time, maybe some of our ideas can grow into something useful.

Best regards
Viking
yuripace
2 years ago
- prevent use of alts account
- block RT supply packages
- relocate at the border of the world map after killing fort, with increased move recovery time
- find a way to make more pvp
- increase chance to get decent layout
- credits poi
- reduce numer of base amount
- different balance at start from nod and gdi
- reduced players for each alliance (maybe 30)