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Bobblemon's avatar
Bobblemon
6 years ago

new patch

Hi

I have been running tests on Tib 38 trying to figure out this patch prior to the WCS starting.
One thing i am struggling with is being able to measure the 80% cut off for getting the full loot when 2 people team up on a base.
If 1 player hits how do we know before the hit if he will do more or less than the 80%?
In TACs, TABs and the built in combat simulators it does show a total base damage section that shows the damage done to the defences and buildings combined, however i have found that this is calculated differently to what the patch is doing. Especially the built in simulator which seems quite inaccurate.

Am i missing some thing here? Or do the simulators need to be updated to reflect the workings of the patch so we can judge this more accurately?

Thanks
Bobble
  • PunkiePunk's avatar
    PunkiePunk
    6 years ago
    Hey, struggling with it too. Just killed a crappy base on wcs, 12 hits, 1 helper did 2 or 3 hits , I got a whopping 63 k of crystal out of a base holding 356 k . So teaming up on a base is really not worth doing any more.
    1. Where did all the rest go?
    2. If you kill a base with your own 2 off bases, is the loot gone too? Same player, 2 off bases.
    3. It is really killing the fun of the game, creating friction and misunderstandings. Please rethink this.
  • gamerdruid's avatar
    gamerdruid
    Hero
    6 years ago
    1 Any resources not allocated to either player is lost. I can't help with the reasoning.
    2 Killing a base with 2 or more of your own bases doesn't trigger the 'sharing' system, you get what you earn in each base as you damage it.
    3 They are continually monitoring and thinking about this, the problem is the issue of multiple accounts and the abuse of them is a difficult one for them to resolve.
  • PunkiePunk's avatar
    PunkiePunk
    6 years ago
    3 Why not apply the loot drop only if a member from a different alliance shoots and kills the base? Bring back the fun of digging and playing together as a team! And then go further than 80 % . All loot is lost when the base gets killed by a member of another alliance. That would really stop preshooting with multiaccounts. I'm sure that must be possible to imply. And everyone would have fun again.
  • gamerdruid's avatar
    gamerdruid
    Hero
    6 years ago
    Many suggestions have been made but are unlikely to be implemented. They have a system to go through for patches and this is the method they chose.
  • PunkiePunk's avatar
    PunkiePunk
    6 years ago
    Sadly this only kills the fun in the game. If you lose 50 % of the loot every time you get a little help, teamplay will not last long. It doens't stop multi accounting either. So it does not reach the goal and spoils the fun .
    So Developers, pls have a look at penalty for basekills between different / no alliances, not within one alliance . It would be greatly appreciated !
  • nuubal's avatar
    nuubal
    6 years ago
    "PunkiePunk;c-2061744" wrote:
    . All loot is lost when the base gets killed by a member of another alliance. That would really stop preshooting with multiaccounts. I'm sure that must be possible to imply. And everyone would have fun again.


    Will you tell us that it is not possible to have the multiaccounts in the same alliance? They are in the same alliance. How do you think that those accounts will get on the front with the main accounts?
  • PunkiePunk's avatar
    PunkiePunk
    6 years ago
    hi nuubal ,
    of course it is possible to have multiaccounts in the same alliance, as it is in different alliances. That is exactly the point I'm trying to make, this rule doesn't stop the use of multiaccounting, but it does take the fun out of teamplay .
    If the goal is to stop the preshooting with small alts, losing all loot when a member from another / no alliance shoots at the base you will kill, I think that may be more effective to stop preshooting with multis and hopefully more of us can have fun attacking together, team effort !
    Also, at the beginning of a server NOD is useless and needs GDI help, if you lose 50 % because of it, where is the fun?
  • nuubal's avatar
    nuubal
    6 years ago
    "PunkiePunk;c-2061925" wrote:

    Also, at the beginning of a server NOD is useless and needs GDI help, if you lose 50 % because of it, where is the fun?


    That is quite simple. There are rules in this games. The most important is that you only have 240cp and 24h of repair time per day (and per cc, without funds ofc).

    You are saying that you dont have fun to play NOD at the beginning because now you will loose lot of ressources by helping with a GDI player. You know that this is exactly the point here. That is called prehitting what you are writing. You say that you dont like the prehitting, but you are doing it ^^
    lol
  • PunkiePunk's avatar
    PunkiePunk
    6 years ago
    hi nuubal,

    I'm talking about playing with team mates. If you call getting 3 gdi hits after 20 NOD hits to kill a reaper e.g. prehitting, I think we have different opinions . If you lose 50 % of the loot because of the 1/2/3 GDI hits, that is taking the fun out for me ! Same the other way around, if a GDI gets 1/2/3 hits to kill df e.g. and loses the 50 % loot, is also very frutrating . So far I have been part of alliances where people enjoy playing together, shooting bases together and helping each other out . I wouldn't like it any other way !
    If you like to play alone, there is no problem of course. You can fill an alliance with alts and play with yourself ;) That is still possible .
  • nuubal's avatar
    nuubal
    6 years ago
    The new patch talks about 80%. If you attack 20 times and the gdi will only destroy a bit, then you will get 100% and not only 50%.

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