Is Anyone Else Surprised...

panam787 wrote:
Im Texan, i live in Finland now,but I still follow the news from back home. Texas is close to Mexico, so we get a lot of news from that country too, they are not allowed to own guns and still they kill each other by the hundreds every week.
The second amendment is not an old, crazy law! It empowers people!
We carry guns in Texas all the time and our crime rates are way lower than California where gun control is more strict.
Gun owners are not bad guys, gun owners stop bad guys!,sometimes accidents happen it's true, but that's just a matter of education, that's exactly the NRA's mission, to educate people, and encourage The SAFE use and ownership of firearms., come to Texas and see it with your own eyes, you'll see granny's with .45's in their purse doin their groceries, that's why stores don't get robbed, who's gonna be stupid enough to try when they know that they are effectively outgunned!.
My point here is, a lunatic is a lunatic in the states or in Norway, it doesn't matter!, they say that when there's a will there's a way, and that's the case with criminals and terrorists, with guns or without, if what they want is to harm people they will, just look at Boston!! The bombs were pressure cookers, so are we going to ban the sale of pressure cookers??, a little fertilizer and a pipe and you have a bomb., then what pipe it's against the law? Gasoline and styrofoam and you have napalm!! No more gasoline then!, or styrofoam!. And you can do all of this in ANY country! Gun ban or not!
when someone wants to harm, there's nothing that anyone can do to stop it, banning guns is not an answer!
It would actually be stupid!, think about it, you ban guns and of course law abiding citizenship would respect the ban and hand over their weapons, but you think That criminals will?? They are CRIMINALS! They won't! And then what?, pray every night that no one breaks into your house in the middle of the night! Real smart!
Education is the answer!

Berrygr8 thank you for your service and God bless you and your beautiful family!

You are correct in that nobody can stop someone from doing something terrible and terrorism (whether local or foreign) can never stop because it is possible to kill people with anything. And I'm sure it doesn't need to be pointed out to you but I will say it anyways, just because you ultimately can't stop something doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

However with the 2nd amendment argument, the problem is a lot (read all) of the conversation gets boiled down into sensationalist polar talking points. We need to change the laws on guns suddenly becomes a conspiracy theory about a war on the 2nd amendment and how the government is going to take all of your guns so that they can turn into the US into god knows what. And yes the left does it too.

The thing is, I don't think the government gives two craps about whether or not your (not you specifically) nana is carrying a colt .45 or the shotgun collection your family has built for three generations. They care about the semi-automatic and automatic weapons that are (so I'm told) relatively easy to get that are used in a lot of drug crimes and mass shootings. And that's simply not possible if some states have no rules and others have tough ones. How can California's ban on guns be effective if they can just go to Nevada and buy one no muss no fuss (not sure if that's the truth but I do know it's possible using other states). That's where having a national gun registry comes into play because it simply means that it becomes possible to separate legal from illegal weapons. But why exactly do people need to have semi and automatic military style weapons? Why did congress in the early 2000's make it impossible for the ATF to create a national firearms database? Why are people against background checks across the board?

Ya I'm done.