Community ManagerHey, all
We appreciate the information you have provided and sent it on over to the team so that they can continue to review these and make any necessary changes to improve performance for players!
Cheers!
I'm suspecting the end stage performance loss could be related to core count, since it didn't occur on my Ryzen 5 3600 - 6 cores 12 threads, and occurs on my Ryzen 7 5800X3D - 8 cores 16 threads, If i get the time I'll see if i can disable 2 cores and see what happens.
just for completeness:
after patch 1.7.0 no change fps drops (from 110 to 70-58) and gpu usage drops (from 99 to 55%) at the end of almost every stage!
it's worse than it was !!
ryzen 9 5900x
rx 6800 xt
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A problem since the game came out
No other problems
big drop in fps and usage gpu the end of the stages almost everywhere.
in other games no problem!
eg here Kenya/Wileli : https://ibb.co/yphrZ88
after a few meters: https://ibb.co/Kbz1JpF
Community ManagerI tried limiting threads by disabling SMT in BIOS, which would limit my 5800X3D to 8 threads, made no difference, also tried limiting threads to twelve across 6 cores using task manager affinity, made no difference.
Tested on a fresh Windows 11 Pro install, issue of performance drop at end of stages still persists, last idea i've got to test is to run through the replay and see if it continues to occur when unplugging all my controllers.
Community Manager@nbates66 I appreciate it. Ive posted the info to the report I sent over to the team!
Cheers!
So just an update for NEAR END OF STAGE performance issues on V1.8 -
still occurs pretty much every stage, and location/country , and as i predicted, results in a poor experience nearing the end of stages in VR.
patch 1.8.0 and no change 😞
Community Manager@klofak666 Since the update, has anything in the game changed at all?
I started testing stages one-by-one, and so far 8/8 stages that i've monitored the performance drops at start or during final sector, Now i really want to get my hands on a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU again to provide more of that comparison. I also tested an older driver, - adrenaline 23.10.2 from 16th October 2023, results seem similar.
EA Shepard no change still big fps drop at end of each stage. nbates66 has the same problem.
In some places the fps drops to 55 and GPU usage only to 40%.
The game's performance needs fixing, that's all. There is no solution. I played the game at ultra settings without any problems with the latest 1.5.4 update. I don't know what changed with subsequent updates. I tried to play it again yesterday, but it freezes terribly even at low settings. What changed in 2 months? The game's performance probably worsened with the VR update.
I have an RTX 3060 Ti graphics card. Additionally, other PC features are more than sufficient. I played the game for about 200 hours, but now i can't even play it.
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@altayturk96 wrote:
The game's performance needs fixing, that's all. There is no solution. I played the game at ultra settings without any problems with the latest 1.5.4 update. I don't know what changed with subsequent updates. I tried to play it again yesterday, but it freezes terribly even at low settings. What changed in 2 months? The game's performance probably worsened with the VR update.
I have an RTX 3060 Ti graphics card. Additionally, other PC features are more than sufficient. I played the game for about 200 hours, but now i can't even play it.
You are right! Sometimes there is no solution to certain issues. They are working on updates as we send so much of y'alls feedback to the team! We are excited to see what updates are coming down the pipeline and we really appreciate all of your feedback!
Keep it coming! Keep up the races, and the feedback, and have some fun out there!
@EA_Shepard , Thank you for listening and caring. I'll be looking forward to new updates! 🙂
Fired the game up again after reading that VR was added to 1.8.0.
Super disappointed to find that after 4 more months of patches there is still a massive frame rate drop at the end of stages (as reported and documented in videos here: [Old Report] Low GPU Usage and Framerate - WRC - DLSS no change - Page 6 - Answer HQ).
How has this not been solved already?
I'd like to point this out yet again -
these footages were taken on the same Motherboard, Graphics card, RAM, Game versions, even Windows install, these pictures are same stage, car, weather and graphics settings -The Ryzen 5 3600 is managing frametimes FASTER than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, why is this? (Before anyone trys to bring it up i've since retested the 5800X3D WITHOUT the power limitation and on fresh windows install, the difference still shows.
For good measure, from a test i did after correcting thermal limits i had placed on the Ryzen 7 5800X3D:
In all instances you can see the GPU is running higher power, frequencies and temperature when paired with the Ryzen 5 3600 than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, for some reason there is significantly increased waiting by the GPU occurring on the 5800X3D.
I found that if I turn off Resizable bar(AMD smart access memory) in the bios, I get a bit more fps and also less of a drop in gpu usage. But it's still not ideal ☹️
EDIT: so no! finland and before the end of the stage 55 fps and gpu usage 50%. the game is starting to annoy me...😞
@klofak666 wrote:I found that if I turn off Resizable bar(AMD smart access memory) in the bios, I get a bit more fps and also less of a drop in gpu usage. But it's still not ideal ☹️
EDIT: so no! finland and before the end of the stage 55 fps and gpu usage 50%. the game is starting to annoy me...😞
Yeah so things i tried that made no difference:
CPPC enabled/disabled
CPPC preferred cores enabled/disabled
AMD smart access memory/resizable Bar enabled/disabled
disable Virtual Super resolution
Disable all options where possible in Radeon Control panel (freesync, enhanced sync, antilag, so on)
Disabling CPU core boost (lock 5800X3D to 3.4-3.6GHz)
SMT enabled/disabled
limit affinity to 6 CPU cores
limit affinity to 6 CPU cores + their SMT pair for 12 threads
different and faster DDR4 memory kit
Windows 10
Windows 11 clean install
AMD Radeon Driver 24.4.1 -Win11
AMD Radeon Driver 23.10.2 -Win10
AMD Radeon Driver 23.12.1 - Win10
AMD Radeon Driver 24.1.1 - Win10
BIOS versions for ASUS B450-I Motherboard:
5302
5404
Community Manager@nbates66 Thank you for the info. I sent the thread over to the team so they can review it!
Cheers!
How are you doing these days? Find a solution?
I'm trying to play on PSVR2 on a 6800xt and it's been a nightmare
When I can get my game playable at all, I found that now when I get to this end-stage performance drop it will frequently crashes the game to desktop.
This is happening in Clubs too, where I will be within 0.5km of the finish line but end up with a DNF because of the crash.
But I've noticed that I get this sudden performance drop like you've described right before the crash
@shearershedge wrote:How are you doing these days? Find a solution?
nah no change really at my end, i am however watching reporting on Windows 11 branch prediction improvements for Ryzen processors, apparently it could improve things for 5xxx series too but i'm not certain yet if it'll have an effect on EA WRC:
first appearing in Windows 11 24H2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlfTHCzBnnQ
but also getting backported to Windows 11 23H2 via an optional update
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1f2t9s5/amd_confirms_branch_prediction_optimizations_are/
as far as crashing goes - I'm i can't say i had VR crash many times but i haven't put in enough VR-side hours to know for sure, and also my ideal VR runtime route of via WindowsMR OpenXR implementation got broken in an EA WRC update.
Any news about this issue?
It is still there in 1.9 and as I am using VR, the frame drops at the end of nearly all stages are a complete show stopper for me that made me uninstall the game and get back to DIRT Rally 2.0.
