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bn880's avatar
2 years ago

WRC, JWRC, + Group B Lancia Delta S4 Engine Power Bands low

Product: EA SPORTS™ WRC
Platform:Steam-PC
Summarize your bug removed due to EA admin Barry removing bug report about inappropriate ruzzian flag being present in the game, a bug that even WRC10 did not have. The Group B Lancia Stratos has a similar issue, the power band is dead at lower RPM even though it has a turbo, a supercharger and restrictor. This is pretty obviously wrong.
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? lll
What happens when the bug occurs? lll
What do you expect to see? Somethin

removed due to EA admin Barry removing bug report about inappropriate ruzzian flag being present in the game, a bug that even WRC10 did not have.

4 Replies

  • Actually, using a Group B car to represent for the whole WRC cars is a bad representation as it is known that Group B cars has much less low-end torque than Group A, WRC (1997-2011), WRC (2017-2021) and Group Rally1.

    This is because in real-life, the turbocharge system (Which sport bigger turbo and lacks anti-lag system) in Group B cars only works in a narrower, top-end rev range and have massive turbo lags. To compensate the lack of lower-end torque, drivers in real-life have to clutch-kicks to have the turbo spool up quicker. The clutch-kick is not needed in cars belonging to succeeding classes because their turbocharge system works at the wider rev range than the Group B cars.

    See Peugeot 205 T16 for a more extreme case for this.

  • bn880's avatar
    bn880
    2 years ago

    I'm not using it to represent the WRC series of vehicles, I am reporting it as also having an issue with its power band.  It should definitely not be performing like a NA only car or big turbo only car, which is what it is doing right now (it's a very strange highly sloped power curve).  That's nonsense.

    Edit: Fat chance of getting a supercharged, turbocharged engine to not be able to build any boost at 5k and 6k when it peaks at 8k, boost should already be peaking. 

  • ricxxILII's avatar
    ricxxILII
    2 years ago

    @Yuuyatails wrote:

    Actually, using a Group B car to represent for the whole WRC cars is a bad representation as it is known that Group B cars has much less low-end torque than Group A, WRC (1997-2011), WRC (2017-2021) and Group Rally1.

    This is because in real-life, the turbocharge system (Which sport bigger turbo and lacks anti-lag system) in Group B cars only works in a narrower, top-end rev range and have massive turbo lags. To compensate the lack of lower-end torque, drivers in real-life have to clutch-kicks to have the turbo spool up quicker. The clutch-kick is not needed in cars belonging to succeeding classes because their turbocharge system works at the wider rev range than the Group B cars.

    See Peugeot 205 T16 for a more extreme case for this.



    Might be true for the Peugeot, the Audi and the Ford but the Lancia was twin-charged. Lancia managed to reduce lag in lower RPM quite significantly so the Lancia shouldn't have that astronomical turbo lag the other cars have. Whether or not it's the power band or something else, Idk, we'll have to wait and see if there's a response from Codies. 

  • Just added a short reference vid for ICE power at low RPM's, from 2021.  Its basically the same engine just different ALS.  Can likely ignore some of TPS as it's non hybrid mapping.