Re: The Portal XP Nerf and the Betrayal of "Full Progression" - Targeted Solutions

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Issue Statement: It looks like we (rightfully) nerfed portal experiences to only give Career XP, but nothing for mission stuff. However, "Official rules Hardcore" has also been nerfed and "other Progression" has been disabled:

Shouldn't be the case as all previous BF's had hardcore progression enabled as long as it was official rules. I know custom servers were limited in the past the further it deviated from the official norms. If we can get the same back for hardcore that would be wonderful. Thank you. 

Requested Fix:
Restore Progression for Hardcore Official Rules only. 

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I also tried to level up the tr-7 in a public game and it’s stuck at the same rank

so I don’t know if it’s just portal that has limited xp

Unfortunately its not a bug and DICE/EA decided to gut the Xp earn rate because people were making xp farms, which in turn leaves players like me who like to play vanilla experiences with bot backfill enabled on the curb, hopefully they fix this because this is really annoying

Oh it better be a bug/mistake on EA's part. Until they return xp/progression to Portal or give us solo/coop mode, I will not be playing any further. I refuse to play online with the sweats and cheaters.

It hasn't been officially stated by EA but they did infact gut the xp gain in Portal due to the amount of Bot farms there are/were in the server space. Unfortunately from what I've heard it also affects legit games that have bots in it so it sucks there but there is a reason behind it and not just a bug.

Sadly i cant find a single server with no bots. I dont know why bots were even a thing to begin with, But now theyve effectively nerfed portal. Ill be requesting a refund.

Just saw that I am unable to grind dailies, weekly, and assignments on portal that is so dumb .. there shouldv'e been a way around this and maybe do 30% xp in portals bots while dailies, weekly, and assignments should still be done whenever on portal making my own custom or multiplayer .. would have been the best way pvp and pve content.

Battlefield 6 bring back Portal ways to grind dailies, weekly, and assignment grind being able to grind maps and grinding was so much fun and it felt like pve content and it would give players an option say if I am tired of doing multiplayer for pvp .. I can have a day to chill by myself.

I am thinking of stopping to play this game as this is ridiculous .. there couldv'e been a way around this like make portal grind be 30% XP or 50% XP so much better instead of full XP ... why does the majority of Bots farms of other players have to affect the other majority who just wants to chill on there own portal doesn't make any sense. 

Please find a way to make us and you have a balance. 

It's not even a month since launch, and they are already pushing the game towards the grave! Instead of fixing the multitude of problems and bugs that the game now has, they decide to do things to break it even further! 

I already have a majority of friends I played with in previous titles who won't touch the game because of the bugs, and now they kill off our ability to progress their ridiculous XP requirements for weapon attachment unlocks!

Add to this the insane problems with the laser painter and the tank lock-on shells against air vehicles, and they just made the whole multiplayer large-map games unplayable!

To me the answer is so simple, I just can't understand why EA has not done this – REDUCE THE **bleep** XP REQUIREMENTS FOR UNLOCKS!!!! That will stop people creating farming servers, and then the portal can have its XP back!

No, it's your type of single players selfish portal xp farm that is killing communities.  I'm glad EA is doing something about this.  I wish they could take it further and just get rid of bots completely.  BF is a PVP. Go play the campaign if the competition  is to tough for you 

EA are missing the point.   I hate bots but every Portal Conquest is a bot farm because EA have put in a cap where the round will not start until 32 or more players are in the lobby.  People will not sit staring at the lobby screen until 32 players show up for the round to start, which has force people like me that hate bots but love there gaming clan community to run a server back filled with bots to get the round to start.  Therefore as I say every server has become a bot farm through EAs 32 to player start threshold.

The in lobby threshold needs to be removed or reduced to 2 vs 2 for Portal Conquest and equivalent, then  I can seed the round with my gaming clan and turn off bot backfill!

PORTAL should not grand xp, tasks and challenges progress, there should not be weapon progression and so on - there should be nothing. All that is not the idea of portal game mode, not to farm challenges and all the rest on bots. People r already braging on reddit about compeleted challenges, which were done on bots - thats a true shame to all the people like them. So, DONT bring Portal back, it should be debaffed even more.

They can implement an offline mode that has separate progression and stat tracking like CoD used to do. Then you can still play your little bot games without littering Portal with this ego trash.

You are wrong about removing XP from portal.  Portal is not about XP farms, its just being exploited for that purpose.  Portal is a replacement for private servers which is a way for communities to get to gather and play to together.  The issue is the introduction of bots. The solution is to get rid of bots from Portal and revoke the 32 player threshold required in lobby for the round to start, so that legitimate PvP Portals can actually start without bot backfill.  Portal creators are being forced to turn on bot backfill as its impossible to get 32 real player together in a lobby for the round to start!  Normal portal is seeded by a few players, then organically populates over a few rounds which is currently being prevented by these unprecedented high players required in lobby thresholds.

Maybe the balance is to get rid of bots in multiplayer and portal, get rid of the requirement to start with 32 players.  Allow matches to start with fewer players, or maybe an option where you choose your minimum number of players, anything from 1v1 to choosing to wait until it's full.

THEN, have a pve solo mode vs bots, and heck, maybe a pve coop where you and your friends can play.

OR, do separate unlocks for portal and multiplayer, so that you play pvp multiplayer for multiplayer unlocks, but can play pvp or pve portal and unlock weapons in portal?

There ARE middle grounds we can choose.  It doesn't have to be either-or.

Do you have Bot Backfill turned on like every other conquest portal that needs to meet the 32 player threshold in lobby requirement for the round to start?  If so the  that's the issue.  They need to get rid of or lower that ridiculously high threshold so we can all turn off bot backfill and rid our servers of bots!

XP gain is currently turned off for weapons, and set to just 150% match completion on official DICE hardcore modes. Even Hardcore Rush, which is featured as a game mode suffers from this. This will kill off all hardcore players. 

Even official servers aren't rewarding me xp at the end of the match.  Stuck at level 28.

I can understand all the **bleep**ty XP farm issues, but what about people trying to build a community back up that they had in BC2, BF3 and BF4 - only being able to have 3 mates in your party and it being difficult for other friends to join the same server, doesnt induce a community, you just get random matches often full of toxic players and or cheats. Ever since they took away the ability to host our own servers the games whilst still good, have lost their appeal. If I want to play against a load of random sweaties I'll go play COD. Battlefield has always been about communities and friends playing together. Come on EA, sort your **bleep** out, it's obvious which portal servers were just XP farms. If you won't do this, at least make the squads bigger than 4 people ffs!