Ideas

Seasoned Ace

1 month ago

Status:

Verified

[AA] 22 Formative Moments Not Working

PC, internal file review

From what I can see 22* Formative Moments, do not have any corresponding files to provide the advantages they claim from the tooltip. For those who might not know often advantages (such as career/skill/etc.) are often handled in a corresponding "buff_" file for a trait.

First image a file with a corresponding "buff" file, and below image a file without.

I also checked career internal files in case the career advantage was decided there, but no entries for formative moments. Now I know their might be a chance they are handled elsewhere, but because more than half do have the corresponding files—this just is a huge inconsistency. I haven't checked every file or check in game (as some advanced in game would be hard to tell the difference, especially when it is unknow the amount of an advantage—I am unable to really check in game either).

I doubt any average user could or would be able to tell this, so I don't know if you will get much upvotes on this, but almost half your informative moments might not have been finished/are working. As players we trust all features and tooltips are correct and working, and in many cases cannot confirm without reviewing the internal files.

This is basically a friendly heads-up notice, that this may want to be reviewed by devs. Here are the files I noticed have no corresponding "buff" files:

trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AboutScience
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_CareForEnvironment
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeDisciplined
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeACaregiver
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_EstablishAnImage
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeAStar
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AspiringAuthor
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeAnEntertainer
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeAGoodStudent
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_EncounterDeath
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AmateurPhotographer
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeARogue
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeEntrepreneurial
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeABestFriend
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeInvestigative
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeACompletionist
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeUseful
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FeedYourself
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FormBondsAwayFromHome
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_HaveBestImaginaryFriend_Pegacorn
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_LearnFromThePast
trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_ShowMorbidCuriosity

*I do not have Parenthood or DU, so I am missing those 2, so I cannot confirm or deny those.

11 Comments

HollownessDevour
Seasoned Ace
3 days ago
I have more information, it was pointed out that formative moments traits are per career_level/career. For formative moments that have to do with careers.
The career files I looking was career/career_adult or career/careers_adult files, when I was looking through the files because that is where the other trait advantages are. But as pointed out that by some in the thread there is no advantage (including another bug report for fame points). Such as Culinary:
career/career_Adult_Culinary here is where these traits/skills are getting advantages (career_story_progression): trait_Ambitious, trait_Lazy, trait_Foodie, trait_Glutton, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_GourmetCooking, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_HomestyleCooking, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_Baking.
career_level/career_Culinary_Level1 and so on, here is where (performance_stat_multiplier) trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FeedYourself moment is.

I don't know if this is a career_story_progression vs. performance_stat_multiplier issue. Or that because it is the career level file. Clearly this needs to be checked, tested and confirmed by devs.
absolutgrndzer0
Seasoned Veteran
8 days ago
Came here from my post about Aspiring Child Star, and wanted to thank you here for looking underneath the hood like this and seeing that it's not just Aspiring Child Star, it's sooooo many.
EA_Solaire
Community Manager
8 days ago
Status changed:
Validating Report
to
Verified
HollownessDevour
Seasoned Ace
10 days ago
It looks like DU's trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AboutTechnology also has no corresponding buff file, but the Parenthood one is there. So 23 Formative Moments Not Working.
I tried to edit the OP but it keeps giving me errors and won't update.
EA_Solaire
Community Manager
11 days ago
Status changed:
Awaiting Additional Reports
to
Validating Report
sisterofmercy02
Seasoned Observer
15 days ago
The 'Good Student' formative moment doesn't work at all in my experience. If you're already an A student it doesn't recognise it.
voxxy1255
Seasoned Observer
16 days ago
Thank you. I noticed that my sim with the feed yourself formative moment, had no advantage in the culinary career. I thought that was odd but now I know why.
minsk75
Seasoned Rookie
16 days ago
Thank you for the Status change, hopefully it won't take long for EA_Solaire to give us the ADDITIONAL REPORTS
crinrict
Hero+
16 days ago
Status changed:
Reviewed
to
Awaiting Additional Reports
minsk75
Seasoned Rookie
29 days ago
Wow, just wow. It would be nice to have a confirmation if this is the case or not. If half of the formative moments don't do anything... it's like been cheated, deceived and truly a waste of time to have formative moments.