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autonomous flirting while married

hello!

since the update, my married sims have been autonomously flirting with sims other than their partner. one of these sims has the loyal trait so it was pretty immediately noticed. I started a fresh save with two married sims and they also flirted autonomously outside of the marriage (and were flirted with). unknown if this happens with fiance sims and dating sims. 

i don't mind if this happens very occasionally (for the drama, you know) but they're doing it consistently which is a bit of a problem.

thanks,
Art

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  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    6 months ago

    Hi ArtemisiaNewgate​ 

    • To be sure, not all Sims flirting have the loyal trait ?
    • Do they get a romance bar with other Sims from this ?
    • Do you have any NAPs active ?
  • ROXZOTH's avatar
    ROXZOTH
    6 months ago

    Hey a bug similar to this is happening to me straight after the update on console. Similar to the glitch where sims are excessively mean unprovoked and for no reason. Every single sim is randomly flirting with each other. It’s most likely a bug with the game like the excessively mean sims glitch. 

  • ROXZOTH's avatar
    ROXZOTH
    6 months ago

    For me not all sims have the loyal trait. NAPS are off and it happened in 4 separate worlds. They didn’t get a romance bar yet but I’m afraid to let these sims keep talking before they do cuz that would destroy the ideas I have for them.

  • I will add to this tho in case the loyal trait is the problem cuz Im seeing a bit of a common theme, I have two loyal sims in the household. Only one of them was flirted WITH tho. The other two sims that were flirted with do not have the loyal trait and the NPCs that were flirting weren’t loyal.

  • MercAB3's avatar
    MercAB3
    New Scout
    5 months ago

    I noticed this too, and I do not think this is related to the Loyal trait.

    I think this is another case of the game treating a missing test set reference as having passed the test. This is identical to the "Sabotage interaction falsely available" bug report. A lot of romantic actions had a new autonomy test added looking for two new test set references that I assume will be in Adventure Awaits. 

    I was able to hide this issue from my game with an XML tuning mod that created the two missing test sets. I just made them both check to see if both sims were noncommittal. Doesn't really matter what the test is, as long as it can fail and it makes sense for the action.

    The problematic code:

    <L n="test_autonomous">
    . . .
        <L>
          <V t="test_set_reference">
            <T n="test_set_reference">482810</T>
          </V>
          <V t="gender_preference">
            <U n="gender_preference">
              <T n="ignore_reciprocal">False</T>
              <L n="subject">
                <E>Actor</E>
              </L>
              <L n="target_sim">
                <E>Listeners</E>
              </L>
            </U>
          </V>
          <V t="test_set_reference">
            <T n="test_set_reference">154175<!--testSet_UnflirtyTraitRomanticSocialsAutonomous--></T>
          </V>
          <V t="test_set_reference">
            <T n="test_set_reference">490981</T>
          </V>
        </L>
    . . .
    </L>

    (The other bug report: https://forums.ea.com/idea/the-sims-4-bug-reports-en/sabotage-interaction-falsely-available/12597201)

  • Hi, the same thing happened to me and i believe my response could be helpful, since i couldn't find that person's reply.

    • Not all of the sims who did this for me had the loyal trair
    • They do get a romance bar
    • I do not have NAPs active, nor any DLCs beside the vampire one
  • wildirishbanshee's avatar
    wildirishbanshee
    Seasoned Ace
    30 days ago

    This is happening even with mods to squash random flirting. Loyal trait or no, each and every one of my married couples have had a flirting instance - to the point that I had to turn off jealousy for nonphysical or there wouldn't be any relationships left. It seems to be NPCs doing the actual flirting, though there have been some interactions that I've missed...and even if they reject the flirt, jealousy causes strife. They have all gotten a romance bar, even if the flirt was rejected. Tested with and without mods, so I know it's game related.

  • HawnaKitty's avatar
    HawnaKitty
    Seasoned Ace
    29 days ago

    In mine everyone flirts and it's gotten crazy!

  • h34rtbr4ker's avatar
    h34rtbr4ker
    Seasoned Scout
    17 days ago

    have this bug and it's so aggravating. i have a whole friend group of friends yet one of the guys has a romance bar with TWO of the friends in the group. its ridiclous 

  • TA1111's avatar
    TA1111
    Seasoned Hotshot
    16 days ago

    Good point. I am so careful with Friend Affection and Admiration vs. Romantic but someone needs to tell autonomy.   

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