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Re: Am I the only one playing out of a sense of obligation?

I am trying to give the new update a chance, but I keep running to a wall.  A wall of steam.

I primarily play Turf Takeover.  The current strategy for zombies on defense is just to switch to Steampunk Scientist on the last object, fill the area with steam, warp out, repeat.  No punches pulled, it's a terrible upgrade that should be heavily nerfed.  Even with the reload glitch fixed, it's still no fun to play against.

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  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
    Legend
    5 years ago
    @kapkarrot Heck the new map can be described in one word on Xbox: LAG, seriously the ocean dissapeared and I felt like i was playing founders again, overall it looks good but plays like crap right now (bfn in general I guess).
  • kapkarrot's avatar
    kapkarrot
    5 years ago
    @stukapooka Yeah, that map was a hot mess. Same lag on PS4.

    I'll do you better; this game feels like it never left Founder's.
  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
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    5 years ago
    @kapkarrot Honestly man I would pay the price of bfn just to have all gw1 maps in gw2 with bot support instead. I hope for June popcap fixes this map and gives us the berry brigade so we can have a new plant to aid the assault for the island.
  • kapkarrot's avatar
    kapkarrot
    5 years ago
    @stukapooka I have a question for you (and everyone else)...

    What's more important to the future of this game: adding new content or fixing old content?
  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
    Legend
    5 years ago
    @kapkarrot Both honestly, I want new gamemodes, maps, and characters in the series but we need to fix the ones that already exist and add on to them ie: solo matches, boss hunts, ops, add more pots and bots back while creating new ones, adding an almanac back giving us the characters backstory (we wouldn't know superbrainz if not for gw2 telling us how he believes he's in a movie, I dont know why the new characters fight or who they are, tldr: we need to improve the world building back to how numerous it was in gw2), if variants can't come back and the focus is on new characters then there is no excuse for torchwood and hovergoat to not come back for bfn, and pve could be improved in many ways both in story and gameplay.
  • @kapkarrotA lot of food for thought there...

    Up until Christmas, I would've unhesitatingly said they need to fix the old before the new, but I don't think it's quite that straight-forward anymore.
    This far on, as @stukapooka says, I think BFN needs both the old fixed & new content as things do feel stale.... but for me personally, new content (aside from Phase 3 Ops) doesn't have to equate to new maps. Or new characters. I would be happy with a regular cycle of mini-events, community challenge-style weekly events etc.

    I love Ops but I've always spent the vast majority of my time in G & G & TT. It's what I've enjoyed most, despite being far from amazing in PvP!! PvP needs to feel good as well as improving Ops & making more of the PvE regions.

    I can live a bit longer with unresolved issues as long as I feels there's progression, that more is being fixed each month than broken. The only new feature I would truly prize is cross-play because sad & pathetic as it may sound, if I decided to give up the game, it's all you guys & gals in the forum that I'll miss the most.

    Will stick with things to see what comes in June, please forgive any moaning & long posts! 😂

    @Iron_Guard8you might need to pop in more regularly with virtual hugs like yesterday!

    @spIash_damage  your phone playing up again? Didn't you mean "champ"?

    @asabaidaI wanted to tell @dwooten77 we'd missed him too, but was scared he might say I'm not on his list!! (Gonna have The Killers stuck in my head all day now! 🤣)

  • @kapkarrot 🤦‍♀️ Did a long reply to you which has disappeared into the ether - think I edited one too many times as had trouble with a tag in it.... hopefully it'll be restored later, not sure I can face trying to reconstruct it! 😭🤣
  • @stukapooka Same lag on PS4, plus it gets really blurry sometimes. I see what you mean about it feeling like Founders. Guess I'm staying away from Turf again.
  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
    Legend
    5 years ago

    @kapkarrot wrote:
    @stukapookaI have a question for you (and everyone else)...

    What's more important to the future of this game: adding new content or fixing old content?

    Fix it first. We do need new content and the more content a game has the better, but before we get anything else added (barring a plant character to balance the teams better), we need to have the game running better, core functions fixed (hit registration, shooting and moving should be smooth and responsive, etc.), balance dialed in as close to nominal as possible for all classes/builds along both sides, and something to spend all these coins we are hoarding on! 


    Edit: like many here, I love PvZ and want this game to be successful as the only other like it I'm playing is Paladins (OW has long been uninstalled), and it lacks the PvZ charm we need in our lives. It could be and should be amazing but it keeps tripping on its own feet.

  • asabaida's avatar
    asabaida
    5 years ago

    @Iron_Guard8  yeah keep them hugz a coming please...
    and if I actually can get the loading pix working in here I will be sending you some to ❤️

    I know how to do it...load the pic... works fine...  but the button is off screen... anybody know why that is?

  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
    Legend
    5 years ago

    @asabaida I had that yesterday too, had to mess about with it to get it to work. Not sure if I actually solved it or not though.

  • asabaida's avatar
    asabaida
    5 years ago

    The other day I managed to jiggle things about and see the button but was a pure fuddle to do... and anyway cant remember how I did it 😃

  • @asabaida @ToastedSarnie Definitely top of the list!  
    @spIash_damage as for you... your insults and endless banter just show me how much you miss me.  And maybe if you had chocolate kittens more often you wouldn’t be afraid to say it.  

  • asabaida's avatar
    asabaida
    5 years ago

    @dwooten77  dont worry I will take kittens, chocolate and puppies when I move to live on @spIash_damage land.
    I will fill my living space with fluffy things, feed him with chocolate and I'm sure he will open up and tell you how much he loves you ❤️
    Awwww bro love ❤️ 😃

  • To my great relief, I no longer feel obligated to play this game.  I was considering deleting it from my hard drive, but I will wait until I see what's coming for June.  I put forward a great effort to enjoy the game the last two days, but the issues that bothered me were only exacerbated.  I might take a break from gaming for a day or two, then look and see what might fill the quirky, family-friendly shooter void in my life.

    I will continue to poke my head into the forums for some time.  I'm involved in a few threads of interest, and am curious to see if they receive any official feedback.  Spoiler alert: they won't.  I appreciate the great dialogue here that helped me work this out.

  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
    Legend
    5 years ago

    @kapkarrotAgreed feels like the server connection is worse than ever, got kicked out of 10 games in less than 10 minutes yet the game still tells me I have 39 ping and I'm able to play ps3 gw1 better. Get your crap together popcap a ps3 version of your first game should not have more stable server connection than your new game in 2020 on a new system.

  • asabaida's avatar
    asabaida
    5 years ago

    @kapkarrot  sorry to hear that but also understand completely, it must be a relief in some ways for you...
    I think many/most of us are feeling very frustrated at this point and the "oh well maybe next update will bring fixes and new interest" positivity is fading fast with every new "unfix" and whoopsie ...
    and for me the concentration on Turf and BA only (so it seems/feels) while ignoring the long promised Phase 3 of Ops so desperately needed is starting to grind my gears somewhat... let alone all the other plethora of balancing and performance issues.

    Ive hardly played since the new update and that is very unusual for me... possibly predicting my fast oncoming feeling about it all sadly.

    Take care and stay safe ❤️ 😃

  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
    Legend
    5 years ago

    @kapkarrot I can't blame you but hopefully things will improve for the better and soon. I'd love for them to pull a No Man's Sky and give us a massively improved product. Even TF2 isn't silly enough to fulfill the void leaving this game would create for me, OW is a hot mess that I don't miss at all, Paladins is decent but has a lot of the issues this game has in the first place, and Valorant looks absolutely awful, so this game needs to meet its massive potential before too many leave and won't come back.

    I'm still enjoying it but it's still not to the level I enjoyed GW2, at least not yet. I will always insist they should have released the game a lot later after more testing and development, maybe not even in Founders right now yet! 

    More communication would help a lot too. I know we can't have the dev streams like we did for awhile, but more design decision posts, more info on why things are changed, and so on, would go a long, long way.

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