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Re: Setting raw mouse input to 0 breaks mouse look, unplayable. Since game launch!

Turning Raw mouse input OFF still doesn't work over 4 months after game release and after EA acknowledged it was an issue and that they were "working on it". WTF EA????? Something as basic as playing with raw mouse input turned off should not take this long to fix ESPECIALLY when it has worked with every other frostbite engine game INCLUDING SW:BF1 and Battlefield 1. 

Not sure what I mean? --In your config files you can change the value of raw mouse input from a 1 to a 0, just like any previous Frostbite engine game. Go to your documents, open Star Wars Battlefront II, go into settings - then open ProfileOptions_profile_synced (with Wordpad). Here's a screenshot: https://gyazo.com/9f6f0dbeea3eec52796758e148fe58bc

When you change it to 0 it breaks your mouse look as in it only moves in little twitchy micro steps..Completely broken. 

Yes EA, we get it that you're more "console oriented" lately because that's where the money is but that's no excuse to have a standard feature for PC gamers not work at launch and still not working 4 months later!!!! Seriously WTF!

So, to help you fix this let me give you as much info. This is NOT related to the Windows 10 creator's update raw mouse issue as it does the same thing for me in my Windows 7 build and I use an older build of Windows 10 (1511). My GPU is a 1080ti FE EVGA, my CPU is the i7 5820K. I play in a surround 3 monitor setup like I always have never an issue (3x1080p monitors in portrait mode, a resolution of 3240x1920)... But I've also tried playing on 1 monitor 1920x1080 and the issue is still there. My motherboard is the Asus X99-A 3.1. 

Many players prefer to play with raw mouse turned off, all for different reasons. In my case it's related to my preference of inverting BOTH my Y and X axis when playing. But you don't have the invert X axis in the game settings, only Y axis. So you could always add the invert X axis option and that would resolve the issue for me. Not a big deal to do this, look no further than destiny 2. They allow to to invert both the  Y AND X axis.

This is a whole lot of BS over something that would probably take 2 of your team members less than half a day to fix. Over the months I've been assured by your reps that this was a known issue and that it would be fixed, yet here we are over 4 months later and still no fix. Total BS.

I've been playing Battlefield + Battlefront games since 2004 and this was never an issue. You will lose a loyal and valuable $$$ customer if this isn't resolved. For God's sake just fix the raw mouse input issue already or add the option to invert the X axis along with the existing invert Y axis option.

Do your part EA, enough is enough. 

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  • This is why I never edit config files and whatnot. When you say 'mouse look' did you mean 'mouse lock'? Also, did you try setting the value to 1 again for now to fix the bug? An invert X-axis option shouldn't be too hard to add.

  • BoBoMeMnOn's avatar
    BoBoMeMnOn
    8 years ago

    Hey Trooper,

    I did mean mouse "look", a.k.a. free look (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_look). When raw mouse is set to 0 you can't look around properly whatsoever, something gets broken in the interpretation of the mouse movement which should not be the case at all, especially not with a FrostBite game. And yes, setting the value back to 1 "fixes" it but it just gets me back to square one. 

    Adding an invert X-axis option to go along with the existing invert Y-axis would be absolutely fantastic!

    I wouldn't edit the config files if I didn't have to.. There was a time with previous Battlefield games when you could disable or enable raw mouse input right from the game settings menu without having to look for it in the config files.

    Making either one of these adjustments would change my gaming experience with this title from night to day and restore some of my lost faith in EA

    I've brought this up several times over the past 4 months. I really hope somebody can actually help out this time.

  • BoBoMeMnOn's avatar
    BoBoMeMnOn
    8 years ago

    Even after that last update yesterday the issue is still not fixed.

    Does nobody else prefer to play with raw mouse input off?? 

    It's a pretty basic thing in PC shooter gaming.  From CounterStrike to Battlefield many players prefer to have the option to toggle raw mouse input. 

    So I am at a loss why more players aren't bringing this up.

  • EA_Atic's avatar
    EA_Atic
    Icon for DICE Team rankDICE Team
    8 years ago
    Hi @BoBoMeMnOn,

    Thanks for the report and information, I have sent this on to the team for investigation. 🙂

    /Atic
  • **UPDATE**

    The issue is still there after the latest update. Why is this not being addressed???

    Very disappointed. 

  • @EA_Atic

    The fact that there are still issues with the mouse look when the raw mouse input option is turned off when it has never been an issue whatsoever with any previous FrostBite engine game (Battlefront + Battlefield games) is unacceptable.

    More so, the fact that we're almost a half year since game launch and this is still a problem without an explanation as to why or even if they're looking into getting it fixed is completely ridiculous and soooo unprofessional. So, quite frankly I no longer care about the due process. Sorry.

    Can you please inquire with the dev team what the status is with the raw mouse input OFF issue and when we can expect it to be finally fixed?  Please find out and inform us whether or not it's even on their list of bugs that need urgent fixing and when we should expect this to be done.

    I can't stress enough how there should be absolutely no reason for this bug to exist, 6 months later. That's bullsh*t (pardon my french). 

    Anything less, after all this time, is simply unacceptable. Sorry.

    🤔

  • As a PC player I found this report (/rant) very interesting.

    I play with a 42"-TV (in the living room, the PC is only used for games and media)

    I have a wireless keyboard (Logitec K400 Plus) which as a Touchpad as mouse.

    The wireless keyboard just about alright for some games - but not Battlefront I or Battlefront II.

    I use a Logitec F710 controller, with Pinnacle Game Profiler which is setup so the F710 is mimicking the default keyboard and mouse.

    I persist with this setup as the game controller settings (X,Y) are reversed and can't be changed.  BFII tries to run the F710 like the standard Xbox controller but sensitivity is off the charts and unplayable. (and X,Y reversed)

    Game play has always be frustrating on both BF to BFII targeting the main issue (with turning around being the next).  Always jerking left then right making targeting a very fiddly, slow process.

    from the previous update until this September I noticed a big improvement in playability?

    However since the last update (Sept) mouse control has been jerky and erratic.  The pointer jerking slowly along - with both the touch pad and the F710; but also varying hugely between different Starfighters and characters.  I then have to manually tweak Pinnacle Game Profiler sensitivity and/or Game sensitivity during game play!

    I can confirm that changing the raw  Mouse off in BF1 has some benefit.  I've just racked up the highest kills I've ever had on BF1 Walker Assault!  (thanks)

    I can confirm that changing the raw  Mouse off in BFII reduces the mouse response to a slow *. (even slower than the issues I had already noted.)

    I think this scratches the surface of the problems PC players have.  We do not play on small screens with a wired mouse at desk!

    Smooth aiming is impossible, trying to master it as a skill - impossible if updates affect mouse response!

    I hope one day that the cross-hair with move smoothly instead of jerking from one pixel wide to the left; then one pixel wide to the right!  Misses don't count!

    Please investigate this as a bug.

    But please investigate and canvas PC players on how and where they play!

    thanks

    Slick

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