Re: Why is the coop vs AI so unbalanced?

Sorry guys, you can say whatever you want, but after spending more than my share of hours on it, I maintain that the AI is voluntarily overpowered, to the point the coop mode is now absolutely uninteresting.

What's the point in playing a mode against bots that basically roll over you in a matter of seconds? That's just plain *. I thought it was to compensate the lack of human intelligence, but I'm starting to think they did it to push people toward the pvp. Making the AI this overpowered is nothing more than sabotaging the mode. Especially with nothing else than living gods as AI heroes.

as experienced player this is the trend.....lately no one cant win naboo on Republic side on last post, FYI there is a couple of dice's guys doing adjustings and stuff to the game server side

you have to learn to play the game

1. learn to use your yellow manual cool down. I use it every single game and my side wins lots of matches. Not 9 out of 10. But 6 out of 10? that's a decent bet

2. every map has choke points. LEARN THE MAP. it's like that movie 300. Doesn't matter how big the army is if they can't all fit through a doorway at the same time. Master those choke points.

3. The key is to get to the final stage of the round. That's the "master choke point" and when the poop hits the fan. you do need to be on a team with people who can work together and know the rules of the game. Just need to play the game to get to that final stage 

Is the AI too much lots of the time? You bet. THAT'S THE GAME. 

If you really want to complain about something, complain about playing against 5 rocket troopers at one time in a round of Blast.

I end up using the Heavy class a lot in co-op.  The mini gun is excellent at clearing out AIs and the shield helps too.  It's pretty easy to build reinforcement points, then depending on the map and situation, I swap to either a tank or hero.  Sometimes I will go with another reinforcement.  The AI seems to go with tanks a lot more now, so as Republic, I often go Clone Commando to take out their armor quickly.

But overall...as others have said you really need a squad that wants to play the objective most of the time.

@MissSnowiieThere's definitely not a "use this weapon and you'll win co-op every time" guarantee. Use the weapons and classes you are best at. For me that's starting with the heavy class. I clear out a point while moving in on it, and immediately secure the point. I don't want to even give the AI the chance to swarm and lock down the point.

That said, if my teammates aren't with me? Then I'll get overrun in the next AI wave lol!!! You need teammates willing to secure the points with you no matter what guns you use or what part of the map you are on.

I do agree the friendly AI could be better. I can't count on them to do much more than serve as a distraction so that enemy AI isn't just focused on me.

Speaking of heroes, I will actively avoid 1v1 on them because you are 100% right. They are too good at blocks and such. I either flank them or try to lure them into taking fire from the flanks.

I still find Co-op honestly the best way to play online. It's got variety. I can actually get a hero and have fun. If I lose...on to the next map. And the matches usually don't take long...except for Endor Overtime lol Supremacy matches can drag on forever.  I had one last night go for over an hour lol!!!

All I was describing was my way to play Coop. This method:

1. helps the team I'm on win 50%-60% of matches (roughly - largely depends if I'm loaded into a group of fools or good players, of course)

2. helps me get 50-100 personal eliminations using 1 of the 4 Infantry classes only 

3. helped me get my personal best elimination tally - 179 - using Assault Infantry class only. Was on the Jabba's Palace map, worked that yellow manual cooldown on the E-11B blaster, worked the choke points on the map - that last stage was INSANE - must have had my trigger firing non-stop for at least 5 minutes. 

Y'all can play anyway you want. That's what works for me. 

I just hate when I’m on Geonosis as a hero and get two shot killed by a aim bot tank

@XxDeepDiveJrxXThat tank at the last point is a serious problem. It's one shotting in siege mode while on the move!! lol!!! And it constantly respawns. Your team requirement now seems to be some combination to counter it...a Republic tank or ion damage loadout or Clone Commando...

Use BB-8 and BB-9E to obliberate all groups and when using Han on the last phase of Kessel, throw detonite charges into the spawn tunnel when the enemy wave arrives, looks like a Monty Python movie then.

Against enemy heroes, just spam blaster shots against their block wo wear their stamina down, the AI is not clever enough to manage their stamina and will close in to you even when completely out of stamina.

Take cover a lot and don't lock your jaws on that one bot you're currently shooting at, rather seek to survive. This helps a lot to make kill streaks and be more effective for your team efforts.

You'll realize that the bots are really just good in swarming you, they don't look for cover and march straight against your machine gun like soviet conscripts.

Like on first phase of Starkiller base as the defending team, two people alone can hold one objective from the covers and gadgets usage.

Use gadgets a lot and in a clever way, like the officer turret, heavy sentry gun, assault grenade (especially when paired with ability resetting shotgun).

For specialist you only need your main weapon to wreck the bots, nothing else. Distance aim tracking doesn't work well for the bots.

The ONLY two levels that are difficult to win on in Co-Op are the last phase of Geonosis as the Galactic Republic (due to the ridiculously unrealistic AAT + bad teammates) and the final phase of Kashyyyk as the Galactic Republic (due to moronic teammates who refuse to play the objective).

Just to prove my point, then I'll stop talking about it.

Played 10 matches in a row of Coop this morning and went 8-2, 8 wins, 2 losses. 

Played the way I was suggesting:

1. Worked the yellow manual cool down (single best piece of advice in Coop. Doesn't matter what infantry class or weapon you use - it's about HOW you use it)

2. Worked the objective 100%. You can't control other players, but you control you. I'm usually literally standing in top of the objective waiting for the next AI wave

3. Worked the choke points where I could find them. Doors. Hallways. Yes, some maps like Trippa Hive don't have them. Just work what you can.

Or maybe it was just "luck" with good teammates, eh? 

I have won as the Republic many a times on Geonosis, but maxed out Anakin a long time ago, so I seldom him use him anymore (despite him clearly being a Top 3 H/V vs. the AI). I have also long since maxed out my Armor, so I will seldom use that either. Well, unless of course I join an ongoing game where my squad is clearly outmatched or not playing the objective.

I can win quite regularly on Kashyyyk as the Separatists with Dooku, Maul, a B2, or Droideka yet it is very difficult to do so by yourself. I have long since maxed out Bossk and Grievous so I will very rarely ever use them (despite both of them being capable of taking the final phase solo). The key to winning the final phase as the attacker on Kashyyyk is once again, competent teammates. Yeah, get on top of the LAAT or in the back of it with a lightsaber villain to help contest the objective.

I always play to win, because that is the purpose (not just "having fun") of objective based games. Farming the AI is & always will be very boring, and will never truly make you that much better at this game (or any video game). My handle on the PS4 is ValarMorghulisDL and I am legit a very, very good player and one of the best teammates on the Battlefront.

If you play on the PS4, I would be glad to help you win on Geonosis. Even if that means I would have to deploy a maxed out Heavy unit or a maxed out TX-130 on the final phase.

One tip I learned early on is to try to be at a higher elevation than the AI troopers. For some reason they pay far less attention to you than if you were at the same elevation as them.

At the very least, that god awful bug where the AI would land every single shot with their blaster in full auto when force pulled/pushed was fixed a while back.

_That was the worst_

Co op and standard multiplayer are two different beasts - learn to master both and you're unstoppable!

I maintain what I said. And after much more hours of it, I can even add a few things to it.

This is straight up bull.

The enemy heroes are over-OP. Special mention to Darth Maul who is basically a god. And most of them are much better than any you can have, even trained.

Enemies have no cooldown for respawn.They keep swarming while you have to wait to respawn.

They're straight up teleported right next to the nearest entrances of the defense point (and that I've seen many times).

You own AI allies are not just useless, they're also most of the time annoying you as much as the enemies as they keep getting in your line of fire.

Enemies don't give a rat * about anything that could block their view, therefore flash grenade is useless.

They appear in your back where there was no one a second before (witnessed that too a few times).

They shoot you through walls (that, too, I have seen more often than I wanted).

They always know where you are, and it doesn't matter if you're hidden in a room or behind a cover, they know you're there, and they will shoot you as soon as 1 millimeter of your left buttcheek appear.

But overall the main thing is the enemy heroes. They're way too OP and most of them can just come and take a defense point, and once they're there, you can't do * about it.

Well, it's been more than a year, reinstalled the game this week, hoping EA would have done something.

But no, nothing has been done. AI in this mode is still insanely overpowered, they're also omniscient, they know when you're aiming at them, they always know where you are, they appear out thin air in your back, they have the aim of a sniper god, and enemy heroes would make Hercules look like a toddler.

Too bad EA, you had something different here, fun, but you vomited all over it. I wonder if it was on purpose, to push people away from it, so they'll play your PvP. In any case, coop vs AI is not even interesting. Sure, you can manage to win a game or two, but overall, the AI will ram you in the butt like a greek galley.