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Re: NPCs not taking care of their needs

There's this thread for vampires: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-NPC-Vampires-stay-out-in-the-sun-too-long/m-p/5851121#M33790 ..

By the sound of it it also happens to non-vampires ? 

Would you be willing to share your save with me ?

If so, please zip your saves folder and upload it somewhere like dropbox, mediafire, googledrive or OneDrive and PM me the link.

Ghost are not listed unless they live in a household (anymore ?). They are if with MCCC (but as you never used mods, that's probably not what you are referring to) so I don't remember how it was before cause I used MCCC before.

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  • Yes, this is happening to everyone in the neighborhood as far as I can tell. I haven't done much inspection on the households in question.

    To give an example of the extreme variation between sims, the neighbor that lives in the same apartment complex has aged from Young Adult to Adult in the time I have played, yet everyone that my played sim has physically encountered has aged through their entire lifespans, some even dying of old age. Others are dropping dead for seemingly no reason at all and it was the vampires that gave it away as a lack of care. Not to mention the very obvious idling that NPCs are doing in public spaces.

    I think the issue has to do with action looping or getting stuck in a repeated action loop when needs become low as my played sim has encountered this multitudes of instances now. The action queues and then cancels instantly, sometimes so quickly that the icon stops showing in the action bar but the sim gets locked in place with the action queue sound repeating. The only way to remedy it has been to exit the save and reload.

    I will work on getting you my save file shortly.

    Also, some of my neighborhood ghosts should still be in a household with the remaining living members I think? But they are not showing.

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    8 years ago

    If they were added to the actual household, then yes. If they're just dead on that lot, then no.


    @Jessemyn wrote:

    Also, some of my neighborhood ghosts should still be in a household with the remaining living members I think? But they are not showing.


  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    8 years ago

    Hi @Jessemyn

    few questions about your save: 

    • Do you remember a Sims that died of starvation in there ? So far, I've only found Sims dying of old age.
    • Are you saying they don't age at the same rate? Like some are aging faster than others ? If so, can you give me names ?
    • Do you actually see them being miserable when you meet them or is it just the rate of death in your game ?
  • Sorry for the delay, I created an entirely new save and did a full repair (3x) to see if that fixed the issue so I haven't actually done any more inspection of the save I sent to you. The issue with inspecting the dead/ghost sims was also them disappearing soon after so I could not tell you who to look at in terms of researching those that are dying due to need decay.There was a vampire that had died of thirst that was still hanging around the last time I went to a ghost bar event just prior to saving and exiting, but I have no idea if he is still in existence.

    I have confirmed in the new save file that a majority of the issues are being caused by the action queue being canceled. Some of which was caused by vampiric bat form and others by red zoned needs triggering the autonomous Go Home action. Sims are becoming locked in place by repeated auto-queueing of autonomous actions to take care of needs while simultaneously canceling those same actions. Thus far, I have not found a fix.

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    8 years ago

    So you might wanna post in those threads instead of making it a new issue ?

    We have one for the go home one, we have one for the vampires not taking care of needs and I think there's one for canceling actions as well, although I don't know if it's newer or older.

    I used a mod to check on your save. SimsInfo lets you check on the state of your sims and gives you their death. Didn't check all of them but yeah, Vampires are special.