@InyooFACE25 wrote:
@BZombie14don't worry Wingmannedbro is an obvious user of Strike Pack and or Chronus Max.
Nice try troll.
But seriously what you talking about OP when you mention "arcing" cause i'm thinking about throwing arc stars when you say that.
@Wingmannedbro Arcing( When the bullets are not coming out the gun in a straight line. They are arcing to the left or right sides of the screen before arcing back towards the enemy. Or even flying from the sides of the screen and not from the gun at all.)
@BZombie14 wrote:@Wingmannedbro Arcing( When the bullets are not coming out the gun in a straight line. They are arcing to the left or right sides of the screen before arcing back towards the enemy. Or even flying from the sides of the screen and not from the gun at all.)
This is something you can see happen from your own firing. I don't understand how you think that's some kind of strikepack feature, which isn't a hack and doesn't retroactively influence the frostbite engine.
@InyooFACE25 yeah that's exactly what I said about it. The only way someone may think strikepacks are a problem is if you've never played in Diamond lobbies where you run into top 100 players using mice.
The only impactful strikepack mod I saw was the peacekeeper mod. I'll agree this gives an unfair advantage. But the basis on which you guys are arguing that people use strikepacks is not even evidence of anything, but instead "arcing" which is normal in this game.
@Wingmannedbroso you're saying having anti recoil isn't a problem? and you're also saying i'm not in diamond nor have i ever been am i right?
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oh, and rapid fire hemlocks/p2020s don't pose any threat either right?
but it sounds like we all agree that the higher ranks are just filled with CHEATERS no matter if it's anti recoil, rapid fire, XIM or whatever nonsense they feel like they have to use because they just aren't any good at the game so they need some sort of advantage then go around thinking they're actually good.
@InyooFACE25 wrote:@Wingmannedbroso you're saying having anti recoil isn't a problem? and you're also saying i'm not in diamond nor have i ever been am i right?
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oh, and rapid fire hemlocks/p2020s don't pose any threat either right?
You're acting like it's aimbot hacks, single fire hemlock is capped at a fire rate that is EASILY achievable without any strikepack scripts. P2020 maybe less, but it's garbage in almost every scenario.
Anti recoil is more of an issue. But according to the demonstration video's this is an offshoot and extention of auto fire macro, which made a hefty compromise on the weapon fire rate. Any of the meta guns like R9 will perform worse thanks to it.
strikepack shenanigans are not even nearly comparable to mouse transceivers. I maintain that the only legit advantage strikepack gave was the peacekeeper mod which can be patched by respawn.
Mouse transceivers cannot be patched out. If you're gonna say anything about unfair edges on console, why talk about stikepacks when there are mouse players?
@InyooFACE25 wrote:
@Wingmannedbroyou my friend are either trolling, or very very uneducated about MODS that exist. I highly recommend you do some research.
So just because something CAN be achievable doing so on your own means it having something that all you have to do is hold the trigger down and it does it perfect everytime nothing to even think about isn't a huge help?
Anti Recoil is very much a thing my friend, yes, with meta guns like the r99. I have a feeling you aren't in diamond or above but instead just listen to what your friends tell you without actually knowing anything at all. or again like i stated before a troll who uses it himself. Which is it?
Strikepack, Chronus Max, and M&K players are all a problem. but go ahead Give me gun with No Recoil at all and see what happens. It wouldn't be fun for others i can tell you that
Uneducated?
I'm basing all this on the very demonstration video's from the strikepack manufacturers themselves. I'm pretty sure they know what their scripts can do better than you do. And I repeat once more ONLY THE PEACEKEEPER mod gave a considerable advantage.
The rest was pathetic, even by their own admissions.
@InyooFACE25I had bought the strike pack for the paddles, and i obviously tried the built in mods, and to be honest, they’re nothing ground breaking dude! My trigger happy finger, with trigger sensitivity adjusted in game settings, shoots just as fast, if not faster.
The anti recoil made no difference imo.
You’re talking as if this will make players 10x better, when in reality you get no edge whatsoever by running the mods.
I gave the paddles a try, and couldn’t adjust my grip to accommodate them, hence brought the strikepack to the store for a full refund.
It doesn't matter what they are using to cheat with, A CHEAT IS A CHEAT IS A CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont know about any demonstration video's for the Strike Pack. But I do know they put out updates all the time for all the guns on Apex for the anti recoil and Aim assist. It can be mice keyboards or any other device that gives you an advantage for the game is cheating.
This is directly from EA's website,
DONT CHEAT IN GAME,
-We want the Apex Legends play experience to be fair and fun for everyone.
-Cheating is against our rules.
-Cheating can include, But isn't limited to, Using third-party software, like aimbots, wallhacks, and other similar cheats to gain an unfair advantage over other players.
In my opinion anti recoil and aim assist or any other mods are cheating and are giving you an unfair advantage over other players.
@Gabrielmojo26 You can spend even more money for the mod packs that are built for specific games like Apex Legends. Those mods are build for the guns and there recoil so the strike pack adjusts accordingly. There for you probably did not get the full benefits from the strike pack. The mods that come with the Strike Pack are not made for Apex Legends, you have to spend more money after purchase. A Cheat is a Cheat is a Cheat.
@Gabrielmojo26 No I am not. Using it for paddles only is fine, but no mods.
This is directly from EA's website,
DONT CHEAT IN GAME,
-We want the Apex Legends play experience to be fair and fun for everyone.
-Cheating is against our rules.
-Cheating can include, But isn't limited to, Using third-party software, like aimbots, wallhacks, and other similar cheats to gain an unfair advantage over other players.
@WingmannedbroI guess Strikepack is the only thing i mentioned right? or is that the only thing you want to address because its the only thing you can discredit?
Go ahead do your "research" on the CronusMax.
Can you read the thread title out loud in front of the whole class please?
@InyooFACE25 wrote:@WingmannedbroI guess Strikepack is the only thing i mentioned right? or is that the only thing you want to address because its the only thing you can discredit?
Go ahead do your "research" on the CronusMax.
Can't say i know much about Chronus max, I'll go look at some demonstration when I find time.
@WingmannedbroI can definitely read, but i was giving you more examples of things similar to the "strike pack" and cheating in general. These things are absolutely no secret at this point. i'd say 80% of people are familiar with things like Strikepack and or cronusmax. It's honestly frustrating and disappointing at the same time that they allows these type of things to continue to grow and evolve to the point where the majority of people in diamond and up use some sort of cheating and nothing has been done or even addressed.... I'm sorry but when i see people with r99s and the gun absolutely doesn't even flinch in the slightest bit ever, doesn't even try to... or the flatline, or the spitfire.... it just makes me want to not play. Because the only way to even compete with them is to do the same thing they are and i won't stoop to that level.
Honestly, it's gotten so bad, the devs might as well remove recoil on guns from the game completely if they don't want to address the problem at hand and try to fix it.
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btw my bad if i've been being an * about the entire subject with you. It's not your fault and shouldn't be mad at anyone really. There isn't much we can do. It's just honestly really really frustrating sometimes.. and you are right though, once i reached diamond two season ago and was diamond also last season, that's when i reallllyyy started to notice it ALOT more often. I feel like the majority of the preds i go up against absolutely use M&K and or have anti recoil
Oh yes I agree that starting at Diamond, you need to be as good as daltoosh to have a chance of climbing since the majority there uses mouse. Try all you want with a controller, you cannot compete with the speed and precision of vastly superior hardware.
Many months ago i was asking to just enable native mouse and keyboard for everybody to remove that edge, but alas. ChronusMax from just a topical search seems to advertise doing a lot of stuff, but which macro's work on Apex i can't know from visiting their website.
But so far as the Strikepack goes, it's an affordable paddles mod, and as long as people don't use that Peacekeeper mod it seems fine with me. Of course a lot of people having it will use the mod to autofire a hemlock or whatever, but for EA or Respawn to indiscriminately blanket bann people for a auto fire script is a touchy subject because of people with certain disabilities that may have a legitimate need for some aiding software. Same goes for use of mouse and keyboard.
May be hard to imagine for most players, but there are people with missing fingers. People who spend a lot of time at home with serious illnesses like muscular degenerative diseases.
So while in reality most of those players are just looking for an edge, outright blanket banning is something companies won't do for the aforementioned reasons.
Yeah the new COD and Fortnite both allow mouse and keyboard input regardless of platform. But both those games are cross platform, I don't play COD so I don't know how cross platform works there, in Fortnite PC and Console are mixed regardless of input devices, and Epic Games have made aim assist quite powerful to help controller players "cope"
If that's the right solution for Apex is not very probable since MKB will dominate regardless. But if they could achieve crossplay and input based matchmaking that would be perfect.
But untill then we're stuck with the current realities, also sorry for falling out a bit. I'm on here quite a lot and for some time already, and it gets tiresome when what I say is often misinterpreted. Just to reiterate myself more clearly on that strikepack mod, the script that nearly doubles the rate of fire for the peacekeeper definitely warrants a punishment if used, and is clearly a cheat. If this works or not I don't know since the Peacekeeper had fairly recent nerfs involving the animation to load another shell in the chamber. From the video I saw about that peacekeeper mod it seemed they abused an old exploit where crouching could cancel out that animation to shoot faster.
@Wingmannedbro Yeah the strike pack has anti recoil, aim assist and aim assist plus and much much more. If you spend more money and get the Apex Mod pack. The pack is made for all the guns in apex for the adjustment for the recoil.
So any update on ANYTHING, ANYTHING at all being done about the strike pack and other people who use MODS?
Hey legends. So I just wanted to shed some light on this issue here. let me be clear here, I HAVE USED STRIKE PACK WITH MODS. I have used strike pack without mods.
1. My friend let me tell you, you are right about one thing and that's the anti recoil. the anti recoil works very well and THAT IS UNFAIR specially on guns like the havoc.
2. The aim assist on the strike pack in 100% garbage and frankly it's only there to help them sell the product. aim assist is not aim bot and strike pack does not have the ability to input aimbot in to the game.
3. aim assist plus: basically if you have ever tried this you'll know what I'm talking about. so on a controller without a strike pack if you spam ADS you will notice a small increase in the aim assist because the aim assist seems to be the strongest as you are switching from hip fire to ADS. aim assist plus continuously does that motion for you to "increase" aim assist and let tell you that it does not work and it will give you a huge headache. it shakes the screen intensely and continuously zooms in and out. and again my friend IT DOES NOTHING.
4. The last thing is rapid fire which can be an advantage, but keep in mind many scuff controllers have adjustable trigger buttons which you can hold in and it rapid fires for you. the only difference is that the strike pack offers it to you at a way cheaper price compared to a good scuff controller.
5. my cousin got the strike pack and I tried it on his console and honestly speaking if you are already custom to going against the recoil of a gun the anti recoil will mess you up royally. so without a mod the gun sprays up in a pre determined pattern as a result you would pull down on your joystick to counter it however if you have a strike pack it will try to counter it too and it is as if the weapon is being pulled down twice as much and will result in hitting the ground. because of this I stopped using the anti recoil almost immediately.
6. strike pack does not have any kind of wall hacks what so ever. ( i believe you are confusing pc cheats in this case with console).
7. without purchasing the mod central the strike pack is simply pack paddles. purchasing a mod central pass will unlock the mods mentioned above.
apex legends is not all about aim specially in the higher ranked lobbies. its mostly about decision making, rotation, movement and teamwork. trust me when I tell you that if you are * at this game a strike pack will not make you a god the same way cheats on pc will. it is however a clear advantage for players who are new to the game and can be used as training wheels if you will. with that being said no matter your gun recoil if the person in front of you is having good movements the anti recoil isnt much help. also you can watch Zuesresorected on youtube he has a video on this because people always accused him of having a strike pack.
About mouse and controller on console, cross play is coming our way and as a result my personal opinion is that keyboard and mouse is absolutely fine on ps4 or xbox if it is ok for us to go against pc players.
lastly if you do not believe me you are more than welcome to google modpasscentral and go to their website with many videos and manuals explaining all options available. after that of you still believe that a strike pack is the same as hacks and will give a huge advantage I suggest purchasing a strike pack and a mod pass (which is 14.99 i believe) just to see what the fuss is about. I have many friends who have it and they ended up turning the mods off because it was actually messing up their aim and proceeded to use them as back pedals only.
in conclusion this is not a game breaking issue in my humble and non-expert opinion dont get in to your own head my friend, play the game and enjoy!
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