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XxColdFangxX
2 years ago

Re: your game is stupid as hell now

@blackeyeriver
By eliminating the opposition doesn't say how many of that opposition you have to fight. Getting the last shot is still eliminating your opponents.

If you're trying to tie an actual number into that definition then I'm sorry to say that is just your own interpretation. 

1-5-or 20, it doesn't matter how many people you take out for it to be considered eliminating the opposition.


You don't see good players doing it? I fail to see where ratting automatically means unskilled. Now, that doesn't mean unskilled players aren't doing it, but some of the rats are people that are indeed good at the game but just sick of all the damn cheaters in this stupid * game with its horrible match making.

You might even find some pro vids doing it for the views.

You're being told how to play? I don't believe anyone in this forum has told you that you have to play like a rat. 

In fact I'm pretty sure someone has actually told you that if you want to kill half the lobby go for it, they themselves prefer to play a smarter way.

Now this loba strat I've heard about where she sits in the ring and heals herself-that I don't agree with in the slightest.

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  • blackeyeriver's avatar
    blackeyeriver
    2 years ago
    @XxColdFangxX I can see this is getting off track. It doesn't matter how many fights you naturally take while playing. It's the fact that some players try and manipulate that deliberately each match so they only need to fight once. Do you think they are the best team for doing so? I don't.

    I've never watched a live stream and see someone go sit in a corner ever. They usually move around the map and engage aka play the game.

    Lots of opinions on how to play or treat the game here is what I mean. Read around, you'll see stuff like "play a survival game like a survival game", "only winning matters, there's no try", "improvement is a lost cause" etc etc etc. I simply hold a different opinion.
  • XxColdFangxX's avatar
    XxColdFangxX
    2 years ago

    @blackeyeriver
    "The game is meant to be played."
    Yes it is a game and as such it is ment to be played, but again that is up to the player to decide how.
    You want to talk about the core of what a br is? It is BOTH shooter and survival. They are both elements that make up br. It isn't a justification but a fact and it is what makes br different from tdm.

    "It's the fact that some players try and manipulate that deliberately each match so they only need to fight once. Do you think they are the best team for doing so?"
    I never remotely said that they were. Only that is it more than just unskilled players doing it. But if you want a better idea on my opinion on the matter then I suggest you go back and read the discussion between me and reconzero.

    If you haven't seen videos of people doing it, then you aren't looking for them. It really isn't that uncommon, how else do you think so many people learn about it? (And I never said live streams) 

    The fact is, there is nothing stopping you from killing these rats. It's not like they've hacked themselves off the map. If it bothers you so much, go find them and kill them in game.

  • blackeyeriver's avatar
    blackeyeriver
    2 years ago
    @XxColdFangxX Yes, correct. I also believe in a balance but not one extreme like some suggest.

    Yeah, I never read that so I dunno what you guys said. But let's just get on the same page here, I wasn't attacking you, simply answering. I refuse to see how a player or team that has the ability to have a good match in terms of damage, kills or even a win is just gonna sit around. To say good players do that too is simply not true. In the right situation, yes, but all the time, not even close.

    I think it's a natural instinct to hide when you are overwhelmed. I did in fact never see people do this on purpose or bring out a tutorial on the matter. There are times when it's beneficial, but like I said, not all the time.

    I don't get the duality of your posts though.

    Bro I have so many questions but I can see this is gonna go in circles. Players should not rat all the time, that about it.
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    XxColdFangxX
    2 years ago

    @blackeyeriver
    If this was in pubs it would not be cared about nearly as much.

    How is there a duality?

    You said earlier you were being told how to play, but the only person doing that very thing is you.
    You come into the forums saying this is a what a br is and this is how it should be played and people shouldn't play it a certain way.

    People are going to play how they want to, there's nothing to do about that.

    The ratting isn't the issue here. It's the horrible unbalanced ranking system. 

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    XxColdFangxX
    2 years ago

    @blackeyeriver
    I don't believe I will enlighten you since you already are so incapable of listening.
    Because I have already been over both of those points and so have others.

  • blackeyeriver's avatar
    blackeyeriver
    2 years ago
    @XxColdFangxX Oh my, bro, if you see comments about people complaining about how their teammates are playing do you not think they are saying those players are playing the game wrong? If you see a complaint about hot dropping do you not think people are insinuating that they are playing it wrong? Read between the lines is what I was trying to tell you originally, everyone has an opinion on how to play it properly. I call people out for putting wrong labels on a game mode for which I didn't invent the definition for and suddenly that's wrong? Even when they do the same? Bro.

    The duality in your posts are that you say ratting is cheap, yet you say it's up to them and they can do what they want, yet you say if we have a problem with it we should just kill them? And you say ranking up from it puts you in ranks you don't belong. Then you upvote my original post, which is what we are discussing here, in detail essentially, which you seem to disagree with anyway. Like, what?? You endorse ratting or you don't. That's all. The details do not matter.
  • XxColdFangxX's avatar
    XxColdFangxX
    2 years ago

    @blackeyeriver
    Maybe this will help you then bro.

    Everyone has their own play style-that is a fact.

    I don't like ratting-that is my preference.

    Ratting is a strategy-that is a fact and a playstyle.
    People are indeed manipulating the ranked system via ratting-that is a fact.

    The issue isn't that people are Ratting. Rats existed long before this system. It is that the system is unbalanced, allowing those manipulating it to get to teirs they shouldn't be in. - fact

    ^ but this does not mean a part of the player base should be told they shouldn't be allowed to play that way. It does not matter if I endorse it or not. Or you for that matter.

    You are finding duality because you are taking things out of context and not reading behind the meanings.

    Everyone has an opinion on how to play yes, but what you were doing was not voicing your opinion but rather trying to force it.

    However OUR discussion was about the meaning behind br and how it was interpreted, and how it 'should' be played. Again, that is how you are finding duality, because you were trying to fit my preferences on Ratting into what a br actually is.

  • blackeyeriver's avatar
    blackeyeriver
    2 years ago
    @XxColdFangxX

    Ratting is a strategy - for players who cant do 20 bombs and will not improve because it's all they do. Not only that, they promote it. I simply do not and will voice my opinion about it.

    The issue isn't that people are Ratting - it's exactly the problem. Players are getting into the last 1v1 which they didn't work for. It's an exploit, not a playstyle.

    You are finding duality because you are taking things out of context and not reading behind the meanings - you agree or you don't, it's simple.

    Everyone has an opinion on how to play yes, but what you were doing was not voicing your opinion but rather trying to force it - if it means I hold a strong opinion on what fps means, sure, why not, I see others doing the same in this thread, with the BOLD LETTERS and all in a previous post. Please. It's called a discussion and last time I checked it was already settled between myself and the persons in question.

    However OUR discussion was about the meaning behind br and how it was interpreted. Again, that is how you are finding duality, because you were trying to fit my preferences on Ratting into what a br actually is. - No, I simply gave a meaning, what ever labels you put on it is your business however misguided it may be. You agree or you don't, you could just have said as much.









  • XxColdFangxX's avatar
    XxColdFangxX
    2 years ago

    @blackeyeriver
    Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.

    I'm not going to continue a discussion with someone who only picks and chooses what parts of the conversation he wishes to listen to.

    I can't tell you any more than i could tell reconzero how to go about playing your game.

    What I can say is that the solution is not that they shouldn't be allowed to play that way, but that the system needs to be fixed so it can't be taken advantage of.

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