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2 years ago
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Aim assist nerfing OR add Aim assist to mouse

I am a girl from Asian. I have played this game since season 5, over 3000 hrs. Besides, I have reached master in seasons and collected all heirlooms in this game. I have invested a big amount of time and money in this game.

The 2023 split 2 ALGS has raised the problem of aim assist unbalance to a higher level. The top 3 players with most kills are all controller players. It can express how the aim assist is powerful. But Respawn never took it as an issue.

The most striking thing for me is, months ago I was trying to practise prowler for couple days and going to flaunt it with my teammates, because its high DPS (I am a close-range fighting enthusiast with mouse main), Then my teammate casually mentioned: prowler can be used better by controller players, this weapon is not suitable for mouses. I felt frustrated at that time because he did not say anything wrong. Even I wanted to say no, in fact I also did agree with his view deep down inside.


My hard-working for long time to improve my aiming can be easily crushed by controllers’ aim assist. Just like because of girl’s inherent physical disadvantage, girls were told that they should be gentler and more obedient since they were young and should learn more about how to cook and do housework to serve her husband and children well, girls should not consider about venturing into male-dominated fields or standing side by side with men. It is what mouse players are facing currently. Respawn only care about the controllers and never saw the mouse players’ slow death. Mouse players in this game are constrained by invisible ceilings already.

In this season, the nerfing SMG cannot optimize current state. The SMG nerfing would not solve the key problem. Just like ethnic minorities advocated for equal rights, but the government only responded by promising the salary slight increases without taking any correct and concrete actions. Under the same situation, aim assist can help the controller players to alleviate the problems of aiming accuracy decrease which brought by the long-time gaming. It is very evident in ALGS, after hours, mouse players cannot maintain their good conditions of aiming, but the controller players are without this concern. The difference can bring a significant impact on the players’ mental state in the game. The difference gives all mouse players a feeling that, we will never be good enough in the future because we are not controller-main.

I saw the disappointment showed on the mouse’s players’ faces in ALGS, I could see their frustrate and disappointment brought by the fundamental difference of devices. Lou, Albralelie, so many fantastic mouse players started to switch controller for achieving better competition result. Respawn still ignore and even appreciate their struggle.

Apex advocates for LGBT+ equality, but it even is not able to guarantee the most basic fairness of competitive gaming.

It is RIDICULOUS.

  • I hear you. I'm a mouse and keyboard player. My hot take would be to nerf aim assist and remove tap strafing. Keep wall bounce since both inputs can utilize that technique

    When controller players say "but MnK players can tap strafe" (it's impossible movement in my opinion), the fact is that controller players can also tap strafe if they play from Steam by using Steam's controller configuration software, so there's controller players tap strafing left and right aswell.

    I refuse to use tap strafing, and Respawn also agrees that tap strafing is not good for the game. They know how to remove it, because they "accidentally" did it many seasons ago and many pro players went big mad so it was reversed.

    The "but PC players have 144hz when us console players have 40-60fps" argument is also a bit flawed in my opinion since there's PC players with laptops who get 30fps aswell. Sure, you can just buy a better PC and enjoy the higher fps bur console players can't since there's no better console to buy

    Maybe Respawn will nerf aim assist when (or if) the 120fps update comes that they have promised for almost 3 years now

    For me, i'm just a casual player who plays for fun, I have no desire to compete at high levels, so I can just brush it off if I get rolled by a controller player in 1v1 ( i do roll my eyes if they teabag my deathbox afterwards since 40 or 60% of their aim is done by instantaneous aim software)

    I don't know. I have no problem if console players have 60% aim assist if they play against each other, but PC can't disable cross-play, so there's no input specific lobbies where MnK play against each other and controller players battle against each other

    When I watch ALGS tournament and see how the aim of controller players sticks to enemies I just go "oh, cool..." and yea...

    I also want to clarify that I have no ill will towards controller players, I just have problem with the game giving so much aim assist, so I have "problem" with respawn.

    If you play controller, that's what you do, it's the game that has the problematic amount of aim assist in my opinion.

    I hope Respawn would at least do some experiments with the amount of aim assist given to players, or how the aim assist works technically. I have heard from many pro controller players that they would be okay with 20% or 30% aim assist instead of 40%. I hope respawn tests this

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