Just returned to F1 2020...and what the hell did I just played??

@Apophis-STRWeird with just 100 hours into this years game. I don’t want to play it anymore. But because of the handling It’s really made me not want to even consider 21 or 22. So earlier I was actually considering installing 2020. But two reasons that put me off thus far. After having PS5 for 2 years. I have got used to not having to wait for games to load and I do remember the only thing that annoyed me about 2020 was that each race took a so long to load.

The other thing that was an annoyance gameplay wise. Was whenever Ai teammates were within wheel to wheel range. The would then spend the race pretty much side by side slowing each other down.

But then nothing is more annoying at the minute than the flashback glitch where after a flashback it appears all cars become indestructible. As I have attention span of a toddler I’m partial to a few flashbacks per race. Which means really boring races.

I’ve been told by QA they can’t replicate it. 🤷🏻‍♂️.

But like you I don’t ever remember feeling cheated by excite mechanics, Ai cheats or scripts in 2020.

I started noticing them in 21 and ranted often about the on Codies. But no one was really seeing what I was. But then not many play the game over and over using every which way like me. But in 22 the community regulars started posting how the game cheats you when you consistently perform well

its like every year they use the same game cheats and fewer and fewer changes  to career modes making them more visible.   Along with when faced with a complicated bug rather than fix it.  They disable what feature is effective and shoehorn in another coded script so to make it seem fixed

 However that all being said I do not for a second believe it’s the dev teams or EA QA teams fault.  But as always with the game industry the reasons for this can be traced back to upper management and corporate greed being totally out off control 

I have gone back to 2020 as well the biggest diff I find is that the FFB in 2020 on my Simxperience S1 with Sam Maxwell F1 wheel is 1000 times better than in the last 3 games I can feel every thing going on rear end slides my wheel nearly corrects itself it is that good. front end slide can be picked up much quicker great game. I have over 800 on it and I am afraid this game 2023 no advance in Career or My team is done for me.

They better do somting major in 24 otherwise I dont think I will buy it I will put my bet on and my money on ACC 2.

Yes, F1 2020 is still very good game and provides much fun. I also return to it from time to time or even to F1 2019, if I want to go for some Hockenheim-Action 😀

For the modding, it's true that there are less mods, but luckily the mods we need are still there. There will be enough to have some good myteam seasons. And for myteam I use my Personal Team I keep to Patch into games since 1996. So that doesn't hurt me that much. You have a point, the decline in mods shows the declining interest in the series. There are surely several reasons, but recurring or not fixing major Bugs and ignoring the wishes from the customers takes its toll.

Luckily we can always go for the old games (except pre F1 2012, due to the dead activation mechannism)

Same to be honest. I did enjoy 2021 and 2022, and to am extent 2023 but little things (you know the ones I mean!) that I've disliked about the games has worn my patience out with playing any of them until they fix it.

I also went back to 2020 for a bit as I remembered I actually bought it in steam when it was £5 as well and since I upgraded my computer I thought I'd try some mods in it. It still plays just as well as 2023 and although the issue I hate the most is still present, it's a lot less noticeable in 2020 as the cars were better balanced (except Ferrari but we'll gloss over that). 

Had quite a bit of fun having a proper Lotus, Honda and Brawn livery for My Team and having some fun using an Alonso and Hulkenberg mod to play as them in career mode along with their proper helmets. Although it doesn't affect the gameplay, it just feels better having that option available which is why I've been saying I'd love to see this options properly added rather than needing a mod.

As you say as well, the gameplay feels great still although I'm still trying to get the FFB to match the feeling it had in 21/22 and 23 as it feels too loose in 2020 despite the same settings. Might just continue with this one for now and if it somehow gets to a point where 23 actually changes things we've all been asking for then I'll switch back. 

In the meantime it's 2020 until then and not buying any more again until they listen to us.

Maybe the fact that their sales have been poor this year they might realise that maybe it's actually a good idea to listen to your existing customers rather than ignoring our requests and adding nonsense we don't want.

f1 2020 are so terrible game, no AI mistakes, no fight to positions, no underbody damage, bad damage and wear on tyres, terrible physics and arcade grip, please don´t remember this *

I often play 2018, 2019 and 2020 because I find career modes more enjoyable. Game wasn't focusing on multiplayer so much at the time so Codies spent more time making it better for single player mode.

And I agree with @ScarDuck14 , game often cheats in 21, 22 and 23 more visibly if you're "out of place" based on your car performance. And that's seems even regardless of AI difficulty.

Which I find a bit annoying because I use custom setups and they may give me an advantage over AI drivers. Also, my driving style allows me to personalise strategy for race, I often use S/M tyres rather than M/H for one-stop strategy, and less fuel load. And that allows me to jump faster cars which game interprets as not allowed and punish me with DNFs, broken DRS, lower ERS harvesting or other impediments.

And I miss classic F1 cars and other tracks so playing older games brings some extra joy.

From my point of view I'm enjoying so much the new handling/brake bias that I don't even have the thought of play F1 2020 (or any previous title).

I play Time Trial and GP mode, but due to the recent TT wipe I postponed the beginning of my 100% race length season, so I cannot say much about AI behavior so far. I'm also not so sure to increase the speed of AI was necessary but I cannot say much more. I will try to be Perez at 110 AI hoping to get some podium and probably in some tracks just fight for small points.

Instead, I've already done some race pace tests, I start from a wear of 30% to choose my setup and I have to say I like the way the car behaves with load of fuel and worn tyres, I also like the non-linear performance on worn tyres, which is more realistic.

So far F1 23 the best ever IMHO

@P4st3l1ak yes I miss classic cars too, especially that awesome sound, my only reason to pick up a previous game is this one