Re: [Guide] How to report users and cheaters

Just sad how this thread still going after 4 years.... we all know it by now the report system is ignored by the publisher and they will never make any effort in preventing cheaters or get rid of them. Just the fact that they can't even provide a simple and easy to use report system points in the direction of how little they care. The only effort was the algorithm that sends out mail about how much they didn't care about your reports and tell you no actions are taken.

@drevinum9 I'm at the point where I'd might as well uninstall the game. Cheating is RAMPANT and despite reporting OBVIOUS aimbot, I only ever get, "sorry, we didn't take action" emails.

Yeah sure, don't ban the cheater in the pred rank snapping onto people, including through walls or the countless of console / PC controller players abusing AA with strikepacks.

They call this game a tripple A title, but can't be bothered to fix the bugs that plague it and put forth an anti-cheat that actually works. If you didn't know, EAC doesn't CARE about actually doing its job, it depends MAINLY on player reports. With more and more players quitting due to the cheating problem, and with EA/Respawn seeming to ignore in-game reports unless its from a pro player or someone sending in video evidence, no wonder why cheating is so rampant.

If I stopped and recorded every cheater I ran into, and reported them to help.ea, that's all I'd ever be doing. Reporting, reporting, and reporting. That's how many I keep seeing and its annoying.

I see a smurf every 3rd or so game, and a cheater pretty much every match. I see zero recoil, aimbot, soft aimbot, and wall hacks frequently. I see cheaters pre-stack every 4th or so match. I also see the same cheaters who I've reported a week, month, few months ago still playing, locking onto targets with aimbot. A few in which got Apex pred with those cheats.

For those of you who go, "well, maybe you're just bad". The #1 pred was banned in S18 for cheating. Let that sink in. If someone can "grind" all the way to the #1 spot with cheats, that only tells you how broken and useless the anti-cheat is, not to mention that several pros and most of the community called the player out for cheating, and they were caught playing with cheaters a few seasons ago themselves, like how were they not banned for so long?

since the "new matchmaking" I am reporting smurfs every game, either I am matchmade with them or at least one in hte other squad is obvious smurfer. Cheaters I report at least 1 player every hour

@drevinum9The matchmaking and lack of a good anti-cheat made this game highly unplayable. I went from playing 15+ matches a day to barely playing 5, because I would get bullied by a matchmaking running off of EOMM rules, rather than "SBMM", and there's so many cheaters, smurfs, and controller cheaters playing the game, (and I don't mean aim assist, I mean strikepack, xim, chronus zen, etc.)

Every single time a friend asks me if they should play Apex, I tell them, "no". One friend did try playing the game back in S15, and within the first 3 matches, they ran into cheaters, smurfs, and when they joined me in a party, they noted that the matches I was in were the same ones they were put into. So yeah, the game doesn't seem to care if you're new or been playing since the start.

Edited 1: I just ran into a full cheating squad, one was low level, strikepacking on console, the other two had aimbot, with one using the grenade cheat where it instantly blows up. They knocked me down with gunfire, and then threw a frag grenade that landed right next to me, which they only tossed about 9 meters, and it blew up right when it flew by next to me. They weren't a Fuse, but close enough to where I should of had time to block it with the knockdown shield, but I couldn't turn as it automatically went off the moment it went next to me. After they squadwiped us, my spectation was forced onto a team all the way across the map, and no one else was nearby where I died to even 3rd party, (which they would become the squad I'd spectate if they did 3rd party and killed that team).

Edited 2: I just saw a "pred" player, hipfiring a Kraber. What's the issue? They were landing every single shot, no matter the range. That's right, the player was aimbotting with the Kraber, and somehow the anti-cheat thinks its not "cheating". They were with another player who was using aimbot as well, and their 3rd was dead, so I don't know about them, but the one that was alive was only level 58. I don't even know why I bother to even play ranked when its like this.

So, the Rev Army event is back for the final week of the Uprising event, and all I see is Revenants with reach hacks. I'm being punched 2-3x the normal distance and even when I go up into the air as Valkyire, they can still punch me, despite being 10 meters off the ground, according to the game's pinging system. Yes, I know Revs can double jump, but the ones who were hitting me weren't jumping, they were lunching via the punching animation, which snapped them to me as if they were in range.

No idea how increased reach isn't "detectable".

Of course it goes without saying that some of the players on the legend side are also aimbotting.

While I'm not sure if its a server issue or cheat, but some of the cheaters on either side seem to be having no regs, as in, when they're almost dead, you cannot kill them as any and all killing shots deal no damage to them. To me, it sounds like a cheat since I only see it with players who are clearly cheating.

Edited 1/5/2024

Please get a better anti-cheat. I've just watched a full team run through ring 3, only taking the OLD ring 1 damage, and by old, I mean two ring changes ago old.

If ring 3 does 10 per tick, these players were only taking 2 per tick. I have no idea how obvious cheats like that goes "undetected". Sometimes I'd see players take no ring damage at all, and I have absolutely no idea how that's not detectable either. Then again, the anti-cheat overlooks some cheaters who just spawns in red evo armor right in front of them, so I don't know anymore.

I recently reported a path aimbotting using a longbow, hip firing, headshots repeatedly, even into Bangalore smoke and all I hear from EA is crickets.... but let me say (Edit: Removed language to conform with Forum Rules)  and u get a ban. Ea sucks

@atomicvudeuxThere's a lot of players cheating. If I had to take a guess, I'd guess that the majority of the playerbase has some sort of cheat or script. So, if EA/Respawn were to ban all the cheaters, that would be it.

You can't play pubs without running into smurfs and cheaters, you can't play ranked without cheaters ruining the matches, and you can't play mixtape without cheaters, smurfs, and bots.

This is not even mentioning that recently a whole cheater Discord got exposed, which had about 50% of the "top players" in it. So, if you ever saw a master or pred player and thought they were cheating, chances are, they were.

EA/Respawn hasn't even said a single word about this either.

Also, there was a player who hit #1 pred by cheating, and it took EA/Respawn a very long time to even ban the player. Before their ban, they were allowed to play even after they were caught playing with cheaters.

In recent weeks, some players have been getting "falsely banned', with many of them getting unbanned. However, that begs the question: How good can we even trust the anti-cheat, let alone the system? If players who "aren't cheating" are getting banned, and those who are cheating are being allowed to play, what integrity does the game even have?

I personally think the game needs a whole new anti-cheat that works more on its own. EAC mainly works by going off of player reports. A lot of players would just accept that they lost, and not think twice. They would leave the matches, and there would only be a handful of reports against the cheater. Even then, with a better anti-cheat, cheaters have been coming up with new ways to bypass the anti-cheat, so any new system would have to be constantly on its feet to counter them.

idk i've a 6.0kda this season and i really rarely encounter cheaters in pubs/mixtape , are you guys playing on asian servers ?
High mmr ranked is around 50/70% cheaters tho.

@WTF_Huitzo No, but I do see a lot of Japanese/Chinese names in my matches, and they either have very high ping as they teleport around, or they're using cheats. Most of the cheaters appear to be from my region, as they're English names, even though that's not quite a clear indicator.

I also saw a level 2 Wraith who was aimbotting and wall hacking. It was super obvious that they were cheating. I have no clue how that's "undetectable" cheating, but its quite clear that the game needs a better anti-cheat if it can't ban someone snapping from player to player with no recoil, shooting through knockdown shields as if they didn't exist, etc.

Edited: Just had another match, where it was a level 8 Wraith, (different player name), and they too were using cheats. They ended the game as the kill leader with 12 kills.

No idea how a "new" player who's snapping to others isn't flagged as a cheater, let alone a smurf. Then again, they allow pro players to do "rookie to pred" grinds on new accounts, since "smurfing is when you stomp lower lobbies over and over again", even though when that pro player goes through rookie, bronze, silver, gold, and plat lobbies, they're doing the exact definition that EA/Respawn uses to define smurfing in Apex. The pros stomp on these lower lobbies until they're back in diamond, masters, and pred level lobbies.

Although the "hidden MMR" makes it to where it doesn't even matter if they smurf or not, since you can see diamonds to preds as soon as silver IV.

I also don't think KD has anything to do with the players we run into. Your KD, (as you've mentioned), is 6.0, meaning you killed more than you have died. Mine is 0.81 overall, 0.77 for S19, and 0.72 for S19 ranked, which means I've died more than I have killed. If you're not seeing cheaters, that's a clear indicator that the matchmaking doesn't use KD to determine who fights who, as you should of fought these cheaters more frequently than I would of.

If I had to take a guess, its that we're all facing cheaters, but a lot of us just chalks it up to, "oh its just a pro player, nothing I could do".

Besides if you were saying KD is a factor, it doesn't make sense either, as a new player could get 5 kills in one match and then die, where their KD would be 5, that would be right below your KD by 1. Does that mean they're a good player and should fight against other high KD's? Not at all.

No matter how "good" S20 may look, it won't be good if they cannot get a handle on the cheating problem. So many players abusing aim assist, scripts, etc. and now there's just people using AI cheats.

I have no idea how the "anti-cheat" can't tell that perfect aim, tracking through walls, etc. isn't "cheating".

Edited: Yup, game is most likely going to fail as I saw a new type of cheat. Cheaters freezing you in place, like full game freeze. I saw my random run up to a enemy player, and then they stopped moving and got knocked. Then I ran up to go revive them as Lifeline, then I froze and didn't unfreeze until the squad was wiped.

Edited 2/26: I'm seeing cheaters in every single match. Endless wall hacking, aimbotting, etc. I find this season to be fun, however this problem, (and other issues like broken/no audio), is killing the game. Logging on to do the challenges and then logging off isn't a fun experience.

I hope something about cheaters gets implemented. There's even a cheater who was giving people tons of free Apex packs, and was able to open them on their accounts without them knowing. Along with a full lobby of bots chasing after one player, etc.

Cheating is getting WAY WORSE. First match today, and it was a full aimbot squad, then the second match, the whole enemy team OFF DROP had their ults ready and a Kraber. There was no carepackage that was dropped, and yet they had a Kraber, and there was no time to use ult accelerants, and yet all 3 of them had their ults.

We seriously need a better handle on the cheater situation.