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Re: Please Let Us Disable Cross-Play

@Tom0veLook, I understand this is Diego and hes a pro player but my aim assist is no where near this strong and he's a mouse and keyboard player... just imagine how many other mouse and keyboard players are completely destroying you because they are better than you but your blaming it on controller users instead of trying to get better... im not saying diego is a hacker im just saying that watching this video was hilarious lol he has like 99% accuracy and was literally snapping between targets one by one

I have actually had 2-3 games this season where my aim was like this but I don’t know what the hell happened in those games I was just shredding everyone with a R-99 (one of those I ran double R-99 as a joke when I first unlocked the tier 100 battlepass skin) but most of the time I waste an entire mag and only land a few bullets lmao its not total aimbot like everyone claims (I can’t speak for console users though because last I heard they have 60% aim assist while I only have 40% but this was before crossplay and may of been changed)

https://youtu.be/N0XLT8-sIcc

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  • Tom0ve's avatar
    Tom0ve
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    5 years ago

    @FaIIenAngeI777
    Thats(video) what i mean... i only watched 1 min now and i had the same situation the days before... I have always labeled such an aim as a cheater, now my Gameplay has looked similar.

    I just don't know anymore who to report and who not, i hope EAC is already working on that.

    I don't know what happening there, but a lot players now have extreme autoaim, independent of mouse or controller, sometimes it's stronger, sometimes less strong.

    As I have already written, I suspected a backlash from respawn, because there were a lot of people cheating, or the cheaters found a way to access the server and adjust the whole thing themselves ... that would probably be the biggest fail, generally they shouldn't be able to change something like that on the server side.

    Apart from the current situation, players with controllers have long been negative to me, where we have to deal with the mouse ourselves through setbacks, fog and other effects, the lout on the sofa presses L2 once and only corrects a little with the right stick ... that's just not fair.

    Anyway, we (Mouse & Keyboard players) need to get free from that Crossplay Servers.

  • @Tom0ve Aim Assist is mainly broken with SMGs particularly the R-99 and Volt, I think its something to do with the fast fire rate combined with the bad server issues even on Rogue Company the SMGs shred but after every kill I noticed my character would get knocked back a couple feet to where I was before the kill almost like the server was having issues confirming my exact location or something

    I would assume apex legends would work similarly because the server lag is terrible... some games I can be around a corner and still get deleted by a hemlok or theres some matches where an octane can stim and only be walking in slow motion lol
  • AcidicSoda44031's avatar
    AcidicSoda44031
    5 years ago
    @FaIIenAngeI777 I missed a Mastiff shot at point blank range, and yes I was playing on PC with a controller. Honestly I really do not get people who say we can somehow land every shot. We can't. I also think MnK is so much better.
  • Tom0ve's avatar
    Tom0ve
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    5 years ago

    @AcidicSoda44031 
    Don't count every Hit... even one shot, corrected by Autoaim, is forbidden on PC!

    @ All
    Today with Keyboard & Mouse I don't have Autoaim? Is it right?

    But there is still a problem... others do have... he has eaten almost an entire magazine, this guy just turn around 180° and Hit me hard... i died.
    Spectator Mode showed me... Autoaim, like our Videos before.

    Respawn only activated it for some Players? Is it a by Hacker changed Server config?
    I don't look through the game anymore, no official statements here, and i have less and less desire to play such an unfair game.

    I'm in since Season 0... it hurts a little.

  • @Tom0ve I'm not familiar with hacks in Apex but none of that looked like Aim bot which I assume is what you mean by auto aim.

    There seemed to be 0 clips of him snapping to targets but a fair number of times where he accurately located a player he couldn't see. That can be explained away by the player having a headset and decent game knowledge but fair enough if you think he's cheating.

    It honestly just seems like you were outplayed by a better player. I'm rushing so maybe the Lifeline video isn't what you're talking about.

  • Tom0ve's avatar
    Tom0ve
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    5 years ago

    @Zamaha400 

    You don't see that?
    You are a Console Player? 
    Then you are probably not used to anything else.

    That's my own first 100% proof for autoaim (aka. aim assist) in Apex:
    https://youtu.be/iqwgLejtnVs

    It's the moment you start to aim, the gun sight directly move to the enemy, it also sometimes intervenes in the middle of shooting when the recoil is stronger!

    This one is posted by @FaIIenAngeI777 , even in the first minute you see strong Autoaim, he got also voice attacked by a random player 😂
    https://youtu.be/N0XLT8-sIcc

    I play Shooter now for ~15 Years on PC, i know what real aim is ^^
    I have to admit, apex is the first game where I feel autoaim with the mouse... we're being labeled as a complete idiot, that's my feel!

    Aimbot is another story ... so far i know, the player doesn't have to do anything anymore, HOW BORING!

    @EA_Kent 
    Oh... i still have sometimes Matches with strong Autoaim... it just confuses me, who activate & deactivate that?

  • @Tom0ve I planned on waiting til I could review the videos for a 4th time but still busy. If you're talking about "Aim Assist" and not "Aim Bot" when you reference Auto-Aim then my mistake for getting them mixed up. Adding a third term that I've never seen used confused me.

    When I saw the Lifeline video I saw 0 snapping onto targets but she made very few adjustments while shooting. When I have a high damage weapon I do the same. Point the gun at a spot that my target will occupy more than any other spot so that I don't have to make many adjustments. Typically the body. 

    If my opponent has a similar weapon and better accuracy they'll beat me. If they're dodging shots rather than following a strafe pattern they'll beat me as I'm not predicting their movements. If they're just following a strafe pattern with so-so accuracy they'll lose.

    The Lifeline won more of those fight then I felt she should have but I have no experience with PC so maybe her opponent just missed.

    Two of her Kraber shots were incredibly suspicious. The first shot she took she line her gun up perfectly with a target she couldn't see. Nothing to do AA but suspicious. Next she landed a hipfire Kraber shot on a flying horizon. Luck? Skill? AA? I dont know since its not something I experience much.

  • Tom0ve's avatar
    Tom0ve
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    5 years ago

    @Zamaha400 

    Yes, i don't cut some scenes because i also think Lifline use a Wallhack, you can see exactly how the gun sight jumps suddenly and perfectly onto the target at 0:13 & 2:06 & 2:15!

    Maybe it's a new kind of Aimbot... be also aware that the developers are working on making it appear as inconspicuous as possible ... moments without assistance are also part of it.

    Ok there we have our point, you don't have experience with PC Gameplay, our discuss ends here, why you even talk in?

    All we fighting for is:
    A possibility to Turn off Crossplay, to have a "aim assist free" Match again, also in hope Server will work better without that big & partially old PS4 Community.

  • @Tom0ve I don't feel like re-reading the thread but I've always been against crossplay. I also try not to intervene in threads that are discussing the PC experience only. The second anyone mentions Consoles being able to do things they can't or brings up the advantages of a controller while ignoring he advantages of M/KB I speak up.

    I'm also against controllers being on PC or M/KB being allowed on consoles (in competitive games) but that isn't an issue I'll fight over.