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Midnight9746's avatar
Midnight9746
Hero+
10 months ago

Re: Bot Royale mode is a joke.

@reconzero See, that's the thing. A lot of players, (especially new players), aren't going to know that every other "player" is a bot.

I had realized within the first 5 minutes that my teammates were bots when:

- They said "no" to my "let's go here" ping when I was the jumpmaster.

- They stayed in the area they had landed in.

- They didn't pick up any guns.

- Once their EVO leveled up to blue, they instantly started using a shield cell at the EXACT same time.

After they had said no to my pings, and didn't go anywhere or loot anything, I did assumed I had new players as teammates. Then the moment they started using the shield cells at the same time, I instantly knew they were bots.

Then I did a test to see if they were bots. That test was to ping somewhere behind them and see how they would respond.

Both of them stopped what they were doing and then said "no" to the ping without turning around to look at the ping. Then one of them started running in circles while the other one started climbing a wall. (Both still didn't have a gun). I further proved they were bots by using different pings in other areas, and they kept saying "no" without looking at the pings, until it was the "enemy here!" ping, where suddenly they both went "yes" and started going towards the ping.

Another thing with the pings was that one bot was always responding to it first and then the other one would respond right afterwards. It would be silent after a ping if the first bot didn't respond, as the second bot wouldn't say anything until the first bot did. One ping went on for about 7 seconds unanswered.

I also noticed the option to report or mute them didn't exist, (which I figured meant they were 100% a bot).

What's also funny is that the Apex YouTube channel has a new shorts video, where Pathfinder says, "you know when a legend is a bot, because they are bad". From that, I'm guessing the bots are this bad on purpose to see what improvements could be made.

My suggestions for the Bot Royal would be to:

- Make the bots smarter, (and even add a difficulty setting like others had suggested).

- Give the bots names that actually indicates that they are bots. They could all have the same name or something like that, (since no one is going to care who they are, if they're a bot).

The bots in the matches of Bot Royal all have usernames of real players.

8 Replies

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago
    @Midnight9746

    No doubt anything would be an improvement, but user selected difficulty is pretty critical, I would say.

    For anyone who ever played Halo Reach firefight mode and remembers the insane degree of customization that was available... that was the gold standard in my humble opinion. And it was set fourteen years ago now. And come to think of it, those AI were pretty damn good. And still are. I still play it. Of course, they were a lot less complex than an Apex legend (no abilities, pings, etc.), but still. Fourteen years, Respawn. And Halo Infinite bots are also pretty good, but oddly not much of an improvement over Reach. Go figure.
  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    I am actually enjoying the bot royale mode. It needs alot of work for sure, and definitely higher difficulty settings. But the humor aspect of it is fun. I have burst out laughing so many times playing it.... Can't remember doing that in the BR mode. 

    The bots just do the funniest and stupidest * that its really entertaining. Like Recon, It took a few matches to realize my bot teammates were actually bots. The names they are given fooled me and them replying to all my pings had me confused. Once I saw how dumb they really are, I finally realized lol. 

    Still its just dumb and silly fun, with I feel in this game is needed from time to time. If they fix it up abit and made it tougher - dam no toxic behavior, no * MM, no cheaters - I would play this over all the other modes. 

  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    Also Im having fun trying out legends I have never tried before and weapons I don't normally use. I find, trying to play test legends and weapons in BR mode sucks. I always revert to my main, and weapons I know I'm good with. 

    Trial and error while getting stomped blows. So I'm enjoying that aspect of bot royale as well. 

  • MrGreenWithAGun's avatar
    MrGreenWithAGun
    10 months ago

    @ComicBookGuy2727

    I laugh a lot at normal BR. Bot BR makes me cry. It is so unrealistic, it is boring. But for beginners wanting to learn BR mechanics and flow in general it serves its purpose well.

    @Midnight9746

    I like the idea of having BOT 1, BOT 2, etc. You may as well reserve BOT xxx for bots I suppose. Also, the fact that I couldn't yield jump master told me they were bots.

  • BigMacAttack8u's avatar
    BigMacAttack8u
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    Hey all! 

    It’s been a while since i was last on the forums, good to see some old and some new faces 🙂

    I think a good bot royal experience would be merging it with the firing range experience (to be clear, i mean the game settings, not literally merging the modes) I think adjusting bot difficulty like you can in the firing range would be great, as previously stated. There is also room for the more fun settings, and data settings, like 3rd person mode, dynamic stats, hit markers, dynamic timer, legend upgrade reset, friendly fire (a pre match setting that if you are in a lobby with friends, this would just put you on different teams) also making all the legends playable in bot royale would be good (i don’t think this is already a thing, but i have all the legends, so i don’t know)

    Also, as it is a training mode primarily, it would be nice to have the legend your playing explain their abilities and perks to you if you turn it on in the game settings.

  • Midnight9746's avatar
    Midnight9746
    Hero+
    10 months ago
    @BigMacAttack8u I think that would be awesome.

    I also feel like at this point the game should have a more difficult bot mode, where badges are enabled to unlock. The reason for this is because with all the cheaters in the main modes, its difficult to unlock badges without getting killed by them.

    Cheating in video games has became extremely common. Every popular game is getting flooded by them and the smaller games, (like Among Us, Lethal Company, etc.), also have cheaters ruining the game, (but they're not flooding every single lobby.)

    Apex also has an issue with matchmaking, so maybe having players play in more difficult bot lobbies would help with that. The bots can be more fine tuned to fight against the players they're assigned to fight.
  • BigMacAttack8u's avatar
    BigMacAttack8u
    Seasoned Ace
    10 months ago

    @Midnight9746The cheater issue is overwhelming, it’s sad that if you see an arena pred badge, or a 20 bomb, it’s pretty much a confirmation. Earning badges in bot modes would be nice, but i think it should be bot mode specific badges (also can we have mixtape trackers and badges already lol)

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