Re: Nessies are not fun and should be taken out now.

They still need to add SMR, Cold War, and Softball.

Maybe also MGL.
Maybe Thunderbolt.

Grenadier Weapons: Slow velocity but high damage. Often capable of instakill (or 100+ Damage). Titanfall 2 stats, roughly.
SMR: 20 rounds, about 21 power. 7-15 rps.
Cold War: 16 rounds, 4 shot burst after a windup, moderate radius, arced shots like frag grenades, about 25 power, x4 hits = 100 power.
Softball: sticky grenade launcher. Stick a target, they'll be dead in a moment. (100+power). 6-8 rounds.
EPG: Biggest radius, slowest projectiles. Instakills everything within a 3-5m radius. Including the user if fired point blank. No knockback. Minimum damage sets them critical if they survive the edge of the blast.

I feel that since players in Titanfall 2 have half the health, that the guns should maintain roughly the same stats at least, if not have more damage. They should FEEL the same, not like a mini version. Speaking of, I feel Charge Rifle should also do at least 100 damage, not 80, because it instakills pilots in Titanfall 2.

The EPG is fairly balanced. If it was truly a red tier, it would be Kraber powered at a minimum. However, it should deal more damage to the user and lose the sends users flying feature. It never had knockback in Titanfall 2 against survivors of its blast, it shouldn't have that in Apex. They went lenient on the self damage, probably because it's a royale instead of an arena. Attempting a Rocket Jump should A: Not work, and B: deal way more than 17 damage to self. It's an impact frag rocket for crying out loud. It should deal at least the same amount of damage as your own frag grenade exploding right there. Same knockback too, not hyperknockback.

Ordnance Items:
Ticks (Campaign Only, dome.)
Sachel: Remote detonated, larger and deadlier blast than EPG. Very strong against titans. 2 charge capacity.
E-Smoke: Damages everything inside and blinds titans, smokescreen blocks vision. 1 charge capacity, 2 with ordnance expert.
Arc Grenade: Impact Stun grenade, about 25-50 power. 2 charge capacity, 3 with ordnance expert.
FireStar: Not a big radius but can instakill on direct hit against infantry. Heavy thermite damage instakills infantry who walk over it and deals decent damage to titans. If thrown on their window it blinds pilots in the titan by blocking their vision. 1 charge capacity.
Gravity Star: Instakill on direct hit vs infantry. Pulls in self and foes and catches bullets and ordnance passing through its area of effect. 1 charge capacity.
There was also the Frag Grenade. 2 charge capacity, 3 with Ordnance Expert. High power.

Not only would I like Grenadier weapons, but the other ordnance too. Course, they'd probably nerf the ordnance to kingdom come, but still, it would be fun. Fire Star, Grav Star, E-Smoke, Sachel, Arc Grenade. Already got frag and it seems roughly the same as the Titanfall 2 Frag. The only reason it doesn't instakill is because users have armor now.