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- Balladalidila2 years agoSeasoned Ace
Yeah I usually play with team speak channel off since I honestly think verbal communication in fights does actually more harm than good between randoms. Verbal communication is good when you are premades and know each other and especially if you have one designated shotcaller. But with randoms, one match is too short to even learn who's voice belong to who so when someone scream "behind ME", its more confusing than helpful.
But the reason I posted this post was because I, for funsies, turned it on and I just say WOW. Getting flamed by a premade duo 90% of your matches seems quite on point =)
And just like you said it; these premade duo never care the slightest what you wanna do. They just do whatever they want, whenever they want and they never say anything until they die in a 2v3 fight they chose to engage in. And then the flaming begins =)
I actually tell them in the beginning of the match, purposely passive aggressively, something like "Not a big fan of running after a premade duo that doesnt even ping where they are going, just so you know". And when they answer; always something toxic, I answer "Just dont blame me if you die 2v3".
I dont imply anything here because I dont know how you and your premades actually treat your randoms. So I am just speaking hypothetically now but I wonder if your definition of your random "playing as a team" is totally fair or is it more "playing according to our premade duo"? Do you REALLY and truthfully treat your solo Q random exactly as you would your premade IRL friend? Most likely not if we are being totally honest here. And as the solo Q, you pick up on those small things. Even if its not a huge unfairness you do, these small things add up after 50 games of the same treatment, over and over again.The most common of such things premade duos almost always do is to always choose when and where the team should go. In best case they just ping a direction of a new area and just runs, but in worse case, they dont even ping. Even if the solo Q is furthest away from there at your current location, they just run. and its not fun to always run after a duo to always be last one there and get whatever loot they dont want. But the list of these "small but annoying things" is ofc much longer.
- DeepBeats2 years agoSeasoned Adventurer@Balladalidila Sadly theres no reasoning with these people and theres nothing we can do to avoid the flaming. I have coms open just in case i get some random that uses it but lately i've been wondering if it will be better to just mute them all.
Thats another thing bout duos, they dont use the mic until they feel the urge to take on other people. Not to comunicate something constructive, that would be to much but just to rage on the third one for no reason at all.- Balladalidila2 years agoSeasoned Ace
I think @Midnight9746 is actually nailing the main problem here which is that the REAL problem, or the source of the problem, is smurfing and especially in premade duos. Because if there were NO smurfs att all, i.e every player, regardless of rank, played at their peak rank, then everyone would do everything possible to play as well and win as much RPs as possible, i.e lose as little RPs as possible too. This is how I feel when I try to grind to master solo Q in diamond3 lobbies which makes me MUCH more inclined to adjust to my teammates. And actually, most premade duos and solos in diamond3+ are more mindful of me as well, simply because more players in that rank play more seriously and know that they need all team members to work well to have a chance to win RPs.
But these incentives to play seriously dont exist for smurfs. They play for fun and to stomp, not to gain RPs as effectively as possible and this makes them care nothing for their random 3rd player.
- Asmodeus5662 years agoHero+
As a permade duo in trios whether ranked or pubs my friend and I have our in game mics on so that if the random wants to communicate they can. If they are rude to me us I will of course mute them and if it is really bad I will report them.
We do strive to treat them the same as we would treat any other player and use our pings/mics to communicate what we want to do and will listen to their comms/pings as well. If they have a better idea we will follow them. a lot of times we let the random decide the pace of the game etc because it is easier for us to follow them then them us.
It all comes down to trying to understand each other and although not 100% perfect we strive to treat them the same as we would treat each other. The big caveat though is that they also have to strive to be a part of a team as well.
With all that in mind my friends and I might just fall into a minority in how we approach playing with randoms and that is sad because more players that would try to do as we do would possibly find a bit more success and enjoyment of the game if they did so. However I think the majority of Randoms and or Dou Premade's do not try to do this because of to many bad experiences.
The number one thing I can say here in my approach to playing with randoms or being the random myself is just like in real life, treat others like you would like to be treated, there is no I in team.
- Balladalidila2 years agoSeasoned Ace
I have no reason not to believe your words but then are you and your premade friends literally one in a million.