Yeah I usually play with team speak channel off since I honestly think verbal communication in fights does actually more harm than good between randoms. Verbal communication is good when you are premades and know each other and especially if you have one designated shotcaller. But with randoms, one match is too short to even learn who's voice belong to who so when someone scream "behind ME", its more confusing than helpful.
But the reason I posted this post was because I, for funsies, turned it on and I just say WOW. Getting flamed by a premade duo 90% of your matches seems quite on point =)
And just like you said it; these premade duo never care the slightest what you wanna do. They just do whatever they want, whenever they want and they never say anything until they die in a 2v3 fight they chose to engage in. And then the flaming begins =)
I actually tell them in the beginning of the match, purposely passive aggressively, something like "Not a big fan of running after a premade duo that doesnt even ping where they are going, just so you know". And when they answer; always something toxic, I answer "Just dont blame me if you die 2v3".
I dont imply anything here because I dont know how you and your premades actually treat your randoms. So I am just speaking hypothetically now but I wonder if your definition of your random "playing as a team" is totally fair or is it more "playing according to our premade duo"? Do you REALLY and truthfully treat your solo Q random exactly as you would your premade IRL friend? Most likely not if we are being totally honest here. And as the solo Q, you pick up on those small things. Even if its not a huge unfairness you do, these small things add up after 50 games of the same treatment, over and over again.
The most common of such things premade duos almost always do is to always choose when and where the team should go. In best case they just ping a direction of a new area and just runs, but in worse case, they dont even ping. Even if the solo Q is furthest away from there at your current location, they just run. and its not fun to always run after a duo to always be last one there and get whatever loot they dont want. But the list of these "small but annoying things" is ofc much longer.
As a permade duo in trios whether ranked or pubs my friend and I have our in game mics on so that if the random wants to communicate they can. If they are rude to me us I will of course mute them and if it is really bad I will report them.
We do strive to treat them the same as we would treat any other player and use our pings/mics to communicate what we want to do and will listen to their comms/pings as well. If they have a better idea we will follow them. a lot of times we let the random decide the pace of the game etc because it is easier for us to follow them then them us.
It all comes down to trying to understand each other and although not 100% perfect we strive to treat them the same as we would treat each other. The big caveat though is that they also have to strive to be a part of a team as well.
With all that in mind my friends and I might just fall into a minority in how we approach playing with randoms and that is sad because more players that would try to do as we do would possibly find a bit more success and enjoyment of the game if they did so. However I think the majority of Randoms and or Dou Premade's do not try to do this because of to many bad experiences.
The number one thing I can say here in my approach to playing with randoms or being the random myself is just like in real life, treat others like you would like to be treated, there is no I in team.
I have no reason not to believe your words but then are you and your premade friends literally one in a million.
@Balladalidila wrote:I have no reason not to believe your words but then are you and your premade friends literally one in a million.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. That could be the case (1 in a Mil) but I really think that there are many others out there as well that do this.
If you look at my many posts here you can see that that is my philosophy.
It is just a game, its for fun, why ruin someone else fun and your own as well.
Doing otherwise can lead to trouble.
Play fair, treat others with respect, play by the rules, have fun and play to win. Nothing to it.
Yeah, and like I said before, some of the "toxicity" you get from a premade duo is not really toxicity. Its just small things that slightly annoys you but when it happens in many games in a row, it just adds up. The bad part here is that stuff make ME more toxic so when 10th premade duo in a row that, passive aggressively says "can you please come to us and play as a team *sigh* " after they just left the area you landed at when they are done looting, I can understand that they dont understand why I answer something passive aggressive back. For them, I am just someone who got offended by them asking me to run to them. For me, thats the 10th match in a row that happened and I get tired of always having to adjust to the premade duo =) So its a lose-lose situation.
The most classic situation is when the team lands or runs to an area that for instance has a north-western, north and south area to loot and no other enemy teams are there so the team spread out to loot. The premade duo takes the north-western and north area and you take the south area and when everyone is done about the same time, the premade duo pings another area the north and just start running away. Even if you start run after them immediately, you will still be some distance behind, simply because of geometrics and they get irritated at you for "not playing as a team and always go solo" =)
But like also said; the premade biasness is less noticeable the higher up in elo you play, simply because duoing smurfs are not as common there and everyone really play to gain RP.
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